NEW HOTEL?

[jmuboy]

With this new 2000 space parking deck behind the Paradise Pier Hotel, I assume:
- It will be for all 4 hotels' self parking needs.
- The neighboring surface lot (Simba) will become the DTD parking lot
- Valet parking for DLH and New Hotel goes in the current (but reworked) surface lot north of the DLH Fantasy tower.
- The PPH stays for the foreseeable future.

If the PPH stays, it would be nice to see it get some upgrades and "Disney" style touches after the 4th hotel opens. I would even say tear down the current parking deck attached to the PPH and use that small space to create a walled in area with as NICER Disney level pool experience for the PPH as part of the upgrades. There will be a lot of views of parking decks and hardscapes from all 4 of the DLR Hotels when all this is done. The more the grounds are upgraded and enhanced the less important the views from the room become. I do get that this is an urban resort so the view have never been - nor will be - "great" but it does not mean they should not enhance the other portions of the hotel experience where possible. These are Disney hotels after all with premium charges.

 

[nevol]

Honestly that was my first thought upon seeing the concept art. I love contemporary design, and if this Hotel was from anyone but Disney i might feel different, but I just don't exactly dig this design. It doesn't feel unique enough to me is what's going through my mind. The Contemporary Resort has an iconic look and silhouette to it, this one doesn't. It kind of get a 1950s vibe from the concept art as well. Who knows maybe it will grow on me when I actually go visit it in a few years.

Rather than having an impressive shape like an in-park wienie like space mountain, I think its strength is in its program-its shape from above. The resort security entrance and the parking security entrances will both funnel out into that open plaza. Coming from the disneyland hotel it opens and expands outwards a lot like frontierland that expands symbolically from the hub bridge to the rivers of america.

 

[Kramerica]

How do you think this is going to effect the Disneyland Hotel? I kind of enjoy the openness of the giant courtyard. Building a seven story colossus right next to it will be hard to not notice.

Also, what do you guys think is going to happen with the downtown Disney facing rooms of the Adventure Tower? Won't these rooms just now be facing the backside of a hotel? Especially the lower floors

 

[The_Mesh_Hatter]

How do you think this is going to effect the Disneyland Hotel? I kind of enjoy the openness of the giant courtyard. Building a seven story colossus right next to it will be hard to not notice.

Also, what do you guys think is going to happen with the downtown Disney facing rooms of the Adventure Tower? Won't these rooms just now be facing the backside of a hotel? Especially the lower floors

The hotel courtyard is already surrounded by three nine-story towers.

Regarding the Adventure Tower rooms, there's a nice palm filled buffer between Downtown Drive and Adventure Tower, between it and the new hotel. If the "agr-itechture" elements are down correctly, they'll also soften the view.

 

[brb1006]

I'm definitely not one of those people. Disney kind of jumped the shark with the whole ornate Victorian thing with the Tokyo Disneyland Hotel. Its rigid symmetry and humungus scale make it one of the coldest and ugliest public buildings I've ever seen Disney produce. More appropriate for the Vegas Strip than a Disney resort in my opinion. It's terrible.

SO glad DLR isn't getting this.

But the Tokyo hotel looks gorgeous. How is it ugly?

 

[SSG]

Over on MiceChat's new hotel thread there are a bunch of complaints that Disney isn't building any value hotels at DLR.

I could weep.

 

[lazyboy97o]

But the Tokyo hotel looks gorgeous. How is it ugly?

It’s massing, proportions, scale and ornaments/elements are all messed up. It’s a hulking mass trying to be gingerbread with weird domes and huge holes in it.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

It would be a terrible business decision to build a value resort when you have limited land like that. Disney's first responsibility is to its shareholders.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

It’s massing, proportions, scale and ornaments/elements are all messed up. It’s a hulking mass trying to be gingerbread with weird domes and huge holes in it.

Until you see it in person your opinion to me is invalid. I've been lucky enough to stay there and I think it's beautiful.

 

[TROR]

It’s massing, proportions, scale and ornaments/elements are all messed up. It’s a hulking mass trying to be gingerbread with weird domes and huge holes in it.

Well, I think it's lovely.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Until you see it in person your opinion to me is invalid. I've been lucky enough to stay there and I think it's beautiful.

I’ve seen it in person. You should really stop pretending you’re the only person who has been to the international parks.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I’ve seen it in person. You should really stop pretending you’re the only person who has been to the international parks.

Well architecture is subjective I guess. To each is own. I love it and think it's a great hotel that complements the park brilliantly because of the facades

 

[Deleted member 107043]

But the Tokyo hotel looks gorgeous. How is it ugly?

I have two primary issues with the design aesthetic.

First it looks like a standard hotel midrise building with some theatrical Disneyfied embellishments tacked on. Overall the building's scale and massing competes with the charm of the magic kingdom theme park right next door. WDI got this right with the DLP Hotel, but unfortunately the TDR version feels more suited to the Vegas Strip than the first thing you see at the entrance to Tokyo Disneyland.

Second, I'm completely done with Victorian as a theme for Disney hotels. For me it's too safe and predictable. Maybe someday DLR will get a Victorian themed hotel too, but I'm glad they're doing something different for now.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Oh my gosh! What if this is also the design of the new Epcot entrance hotel!

 

[DLR92]

But the Tokyo hotel looks gorgeous. How is it ugly?

Perhaps it has too much going on. First floor has a main street USA feel and the rooms portion are something you see from hotel designs. It like a cookie cutter look. Slapping two things into one design. Kinda agree with associating of being a hotel for Las Vegas.

 

[brb1006]

I’ve seen it in person. You should really stop pretending you’re the only person who has been to the international parks.

I would rather have that over the boxer design of Shanghai's castle.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I would rather have that over the boxer design of Shanghai's castle.

They’re both the result of similar problems in the design process. They’re both overly utilitarian boxes slathered in ornament to make up for their other shortcomings. Well rendered themed environments are more than just a layer of ornaments applied to the face of a structure. The way space is shaped and materials used are also part of crafting powerful themed experiences.

 

[DLR92]

I would rather have that over the boxer design of Shanghai's castle.

Tastes is very much subjective. Some people may not find Tokyo Disneyland Hotel attractive. Others may find it attractive.
I prefer Shanghai Disneyland Castle over other Disneyland park castle.

 

[jaxonp]

So who wants to bet those two smaller wings behind the larger two are going to be DVC?

 

[jaxonp]

I also hope Disney finds a way to reinvest in Paradise Pier... that thing needs a lot of help!