News New Haunted Mansion Grounds Expansion, Retail Shop Coming to Disneyland Resort in 2024

TrainsOfDisney

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Hot take but Phantom Manor's overrated
My impression of Disneyland Paris - after just visiting for the first time - it can not possibly be overrated. It’s simply a beautiful park - including phantom manor.

I like the concept of the phantom better than the bride killing off her husbands. Of course that has been added and cartoonified in recent years.
 

waltography

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Ok that’s what I thought you might have meant. In other a words, a back story- at least as it pertains to the endless hallway. Your idea sounds cool for a movie. Not sure if it would work so well on the attraction. It’s the first show scene and too soon for something like that. What am I sure of is I don’t trust WDI to execute properly.
Fair enough! It’s probably not something that could come across well without something giving way that’d be unpleasant given how heavy-handed WDI is these days.
 

Disney Analyst

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My impression of Disneyland Paris - after just visiting for the first time - it can not possibly be overrated. It’s simply a beautiful park - including phantom manor.

I like the concept of the phantom better than the bride killing off her husbands. Of course that has been added and cartoonified in recent years.

Disneyland Paris is stunning. I loved Phantom Manor. A different take on the attraction for sure, but variety is the spice of life!

I prefer the OG, but I think PM is very successful and wonderful still.
 

Phroobar

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I remember my trip to Paris and checking out DLP. It is beautiful but looked like it was falling apart. There was a lot of weathering and broken things everywhere. Pirates and PM was amazing and I loved Space Mountain Mission 2. Never did the Nautilus. I'm glad the place is getting the TLC it never had before. WDS across the way made DCA look like Disney Sea. What were they thinking?
 

PiratesMansion

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I remember my trip to Paris and checking out DLP. It is beautiful but looked like it was falling apart. There was a lot of weathering and broken things everywhere. Pirates and PM was amazing and I loved Space Mountain Mission 2. Never did the Nautilus. I'm glad the place is getting the TLC it never had before. WDS across the way made DCA look like Disney Sea. What were they thinking?
It was in similar shape when I visited; thankfully, it seems like they've definitely made a turnaround where maintenance is concerned.

They were contractually obligated to build WDS within ten years of DLP's opening or they would lose the land. Doesn't mean they couldn't have/shouldn't have done better, but those circumstances plus late Eisner/Pressler resulted in a horrid park that almost sunk the whole enterprise out there.
 

Phroobar

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It was in similar shape when I visited; thankfully, it seems like they've definitely made a turnaround where maintenance is concerned.

They were contractually obligated to build WDS within ten years of DLP's opening or they would lose the land. Doesn't mean they couldn't have/shouldn't have done better, but those circumstances plus late Eisner/Pressler resulted in a horrid park that almost sunk the whole enterprise out there.
Even WDS park map makes the park look pathetic. You go to left for a couple of Marvel rides and TOT. Go to the right for random Pixar stuff and a made over Cars tram tour. Now the front entrance is under construction for Disney Adventure World.

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PiratesMansion

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Even WDS park map makes the park look pathetic. You go to left for a couple of Marvel rides and TOT. Go to the right for random Pixar stuff and a made over Cars tram tour. Now the front entrance is under construction for Disney Adventure World.

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It wasn't much/any better in 2015. At that point, the center of the park was open, so it was the left side of the park (then-home to Rock n Roller Coaster) that felt disconnected from anything else.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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They're going to have to do a lot more work than what's been announced for it to be not terrible IMO.
I don’t think it’s terrible right now (giving them grace for the construction) - they have done a lot to improve things. I had a very enjoyable time there. When the entrance and frozen are finished I think it will be a very nice park.

Naturally it should be better….
 

Phroobar

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I don’t think it’s terrible right now (giving them grace for the construction) - they have done a lot to improve things. I had a very enjoyable time there. When the entrance and frozen are finished I think it will be a very nice park.

Naturally it should be better….
It will always be terrible until they add a train. Epcot has the monorail and DAK has that train to nowhere. Disney Sea has an elevated train. Even USO has a train. DCA needs a train!
 

mickEblu

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Finally saw the shop in person yesterday. The inside of the shop is the new IT word when describing recent works of WDI… fine. I didn’t really have any issues with it. It was very very small in person. Looked a little bigger on video. Probably why the shop needed to be as big as it is. Still doesn’t explain why the roof peak had to be so high though. Or why the heck they didn’t put it in Eudoras. I looked at the shop from various angles in the surrounding area and while there is no excuse for the end result there are only a couple vantage points that are truly awful/ bothersome. One being a fairly narrow vantage as shown in the photo Gerrar shared below and the other would be walking back towards HM from Critter Country. From most vantage points its obscured by trees etc.


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You can see here it would be bad but this tree helps a lot. That’s right folks, thankfully this tree is here to help with this WDI blunder.

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From further away in NOS proper the shop really isn’t an issue at all.

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Not even awful here right along the HM gate looking toward TBA.

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