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[Flalex72]

It's part lines for all the sensors on the towers, as well as phone line etc. I doubt they will run them underground, because if so they probably would have torn up the parking lots and roadways to run those by now. Probably also not really all that convenient to run them in the water for the two other routes that pass over the water.

Hard to tell from that angle but it attached to the middle top of the tower.

Being a skier, I know that they run power lines between the towers as noted above. It's more direct and easier to do quick repairs for break, etc.

It certainly looks like a support wire for the comm line.

 

[jt04]

It certainly looks like a support wire for the comm line.

I'm guessing Zip Lines for guests in a hurry.

 

[SpoiledBlueMilk]

I'm guessing Zip Lines for guests in a hurry.

Gondola fast pass?

 

[Lift Blog]

Being a skier, I know that they run power lines between the towers as noted above. It's more direct and easier to do quick repairs for break, etc.

They actually aren't traditional power lines but rather transmit low voltage communications between the towers and terminals. Sometimes there's fiber optic too. On most European lifts, the comm lines are underground and only the haul rope travels between towers. Because these lifts are coming from Europe, I am not sure what the Skyliner setup will be.

 

[danlb_2000]

They actually aren't traditional power lines but rather transmit low voltage communications between the towers and terminals. Sometimes there's fiber optic too. On most European lifts, the comm lines are underground and only the haul rope travels between towers. Because these lifts are coming from Europe, I am not sure what the Skyliner setup will be.

I wonder if they chose not to do underground because of the roads, parking lots and water ways they would have to run cables under.

 

[flynnibus]

They actually aren't traditional power lines but rather transmit low voltage communications between the towers and terminals. Sometimes there's fiber optic too. On most European lifts, the comm lines are underground and only the haul rope travels between towers. Because these lifts are coming from Europe, I am not sure what the Skyliner setup will be.

I think the comments around passing through existing 'used space' and the mixed terrain point to good reasons to use aerial links vs sub terrain wiring. We haven't seen signs of conduit rigs pushing conduit, nor trenching. But another thing the skyliner install has going for it is existing utilities and infrastructure around. But I don't know how much telemetry there is from tower to tower. Are there usually sensors along the pathway as well? Or more so by monitoring behavior at the turns/terminals?

 

[Lift Blog]

I think the comments around passing through existing 'used space' and the mixed terrain point to good reasons to use aerial links vs sub terrain wiring. We haven't seen signs of conduit rigs pushing conduit, nor trenching. But another thing the skyliner install has going for it is existing utilities and infrastructure around. But I don't know how much telemetry there is from tower to tower. Are there usually sensors along the pathway as well? Or more so by monitoring behavior at the turns/terminals?

There are many switches on every tower. Some towers will have anemometers.

 

[TiggerDad]

There are many switches on every tower. Some towers will have anemometers.

Don't forget the ejector switches for opening the doors when the gondola is over the alligator infested lake.

 

[larryz]

Don't forget the ejector switches for opening the doors when the gondola is over the alligator infested lake.

And the fire detectors...

 

[Lucky]

At least the AC system runs on an independent power supply...

Spoiler

 

[Bender123]

Those wires are to electrocute all riders at the same time after a lightning strike. Its TDO being super efficient on their death machine.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, we now know for sure the purpose off all those scaffolding-like things...

This is where the Skyliner crosses the new DHS entrance.

 

[danlb_2000]

Well, we now know for sure the purpose off all those scaffolding-like things...

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This is where the Skyliner crosses the new DHS entrance.

So I am assuming this is so they can leave the cable draped over the road during the pulling process. I don't know how long it normally takes to pull a cable, but with the park open from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM that only leaves at best a 10 hour window when people would be using that road.

 

[danlb_2000]

I saw a comment on another web site saying that "Fatzer is on site". This is a company the manufactures and installs haul ropes.

http://www.fatzer.com/en/

 

[MisterPenguin]

So I am assuming this is so they can leave the cable draped over the road during the pulling process. I don't know how long it normally takes to pull a cable, but with the park open from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM that only leaves at best a 10 hour window when people would be using that road.

Wonder if it's to protect the cars or the road.

 

[Grimley1968]

Is the rope coated with something for its own protection from the elements?

 

[TiggerDad]

Wonder if it's to protect the cars or the road.

It's actually to protect the cable. They don't particularly care about the cars or the road, but you don't want to mess with the cable.

 

[Lift Blog]

Is the rope coated with something for its own protection from the elements?

It is galvanized like the towers.

 

[Cesar R M]

So, the actual number of pph is going to be dependent upon the number of gondolas on the rope, which determines their spacing and thus, how fast then come in and out of the station. We already know from insider information (thanks @marni1971 ) what the speed of the rope will be: 5 meters/sec (11 mph). Until we find out the spacing of the gondolas, we won't have accurate pph. Theoretically, the D-line can go 7 meters/sec, so, we're already at 71% of theoretical capacity.

We can get an idea from real world examples. When we go to the Doppelmayr website, the listed capacity of real world D-line lifts that they highlight averages to 2,430 pph (after normalizing rope speed to 5m/s). But, that's assuming they're fitting 10 people in each cabin. If WDW only puts in 8, then the average is 1,950.

The question is, @Lift Blog , if you can answer it, are those numbers absolute max, or average throughput?

The 5,000 pph number people have been bandying about comes from @Lift Blog who said...



Now, a theoretical "could reach 5,000 pph" is way different than reality. If WDW has the rope at a slower speed (which is does), and has longer spacing between gondolas, and isn't committed to filling each gondola with 10 people, then that theoretical number drops significantly.

So, everyone, please stop repeating that the Skyliner will have a capacity of 5,000 pph. That is an extraordinary theoretical cap and is very likely nowhere near the actual rate.

Sorry to burst in this late..but does this theoretical number is specifically based on a single station right?
If we get ALL stations loading and unloading at same time at the same speed (assuming all skyliner gondolas are empty in their respective stations). Wouldnt that reach the almost maximum capacity as mentioned?

 

[Cesar R M]

Well, we now know for sure the purpose off all those scaffolding-like things...

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This is where the Skyliner crosses the new DHS entrance.

Those towers are for "height" representation of how low the gondolas comes?