News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner -

[Flalex72]

Two loading stations in each loading station, one of which is stationary? I believe you but I haven't seen them and I can't tackle going through this whole thread. But I'm glad to hear that. I still think some of the average guests are going to be an issue

I don't think there has been a system build with this exact style of double turnaround before, which is why there are no good examples for people to show you. The best speculation we have is that regular guests will alight one side of the station, and most cabins will go around the inner turn and passengers will get on on the other side. Some cabins will go around the outer turn, where there is room for them to stop to load ECVs and wheelchairs.

There was a video posted showing an ore hauling system where the ore buckets went around the outside continuously, while a staff cabin waited on the inner turnaround for when it was needed. The Disney system would likely be similar, but the cabins will all be identical and there is unlikely to be boarding on the inside curve since you would have to cross the outer path.

Somewhere both a Doppelmayr and a Poma executive are crying out in pain.

All the information on the history of Stowe I could find says it's a Poma gondola. Finally, found an article from LiftBlog https://liftblog.com/gondola-stowe-vt/ that explains it. "CWA stuck Doppelmayr logos in these cabins when they refurbushed them even though the lift is a Poma."

Though this exact case has been answered, it should be noted that there are really no differences between a Doppelmayr or Lietner Poma gondola from the perspective of the rider. Most people would struggle to identify the manufacturer of the lift they are riding, they all function pretty much the same.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They're making more??!?!

I loved this. Somehow I missed it. I'm saying thank you from under the rock I've apparently been living under.

I'm happy to oblige.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Does the Gondola have a name yet? Perhaps you've touched upon the logo for it. At the risk of being sued by Disney for posting this, here goes:

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SKYLINER
Spontaneous Combustion!​

 

[OG Runner]

Before that happens, we'll all be eaten by alligators after the gondola is blown off the cable while we are being cooked to death in the Florida heat and fried by lightning whilst riding during a thunderstorm. So I don't know what you're talking about.

Riiiiiiight!

 

[larryz]

SKYLINER
Spontaneous Combustion!​

I thought it was called "Mickey's Fun Gondolas of Death."

 

[mmascari]

Though this exact case has been answered, it should be noted that there are really no differences between a Doppelmayr or Lietner Poma gondola from the perspective of the rider. Most people would struggle to identify the manufacturer of the lift they are riding, they all function pretty much the same.

As far as getting from point A to point B, that's true.

But, if you're trying to compare the size of the doors, the ventilation, window coverings, seats, size of the cabin, all the little details about the experience, then it definitely matters.

A 1980 Ford Pinto, a 2005 Honda Civic, and a 2018 BMW 320i sedan will all get you from point A to point B, probably in the same amount of time too. But, if you're going to compare the comfort during the trip that's another story......

 

[awhit066]

Photo update as of Monday, August 13, 2018. Skyliner station progress at Riviera resort.

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Will guests be forced to transfer at the Riviera Station or will this be an optional load/unload for those getting on/off at the riviera while others can stay aboard to get to their destination?

Apologies if this has been mentioned before.

 

[Biff215]

Boardwalk turn station this morning.

 

[nickys]

Will guests be forced to transfer at the Riviera Station or will this be an optional load/unload for those getting on/off at the riviera while others can stay aboard to get to their destination?

Apologies if this has been mentioned before.

Riviera is a midline station between CBR and IG, for guests staying at Riviera (and possibly some CBR guests). No one else needs to disembark and transfer. The transfer happens at the CBR station.

 

[awhit066]

Riviera is a midline station between CBR and IG, for guests staying at Riviera (and possibly some CBR guests). No one else needs to disembark and transfer. The transfer happens at the CBR station.

Thanks, this is what I was hoping.

 

[Grimley1968]

Focusing on the Riviera station: since it also acts as turn station, presumably every gondola will have to detach from the cable, slow down and go through the turn and loading area before reattaching to the cable and moving on. If most gondolas are carrying thru traffic who stay in their cars, do those gondola doors open and then shut in the station, or will the system keep their doors shut somehow? Also, for people at Riviera getting on the gondolas there, will they get on a stationary gondola waiting for them and then get moved to the attachment point, or will they need to wait for an already empty gondola on the route as it enters the station?

 

[danlb_2000]

Focusing on the Riviera station: since it also acts as turn station, presumably every gondola will have to detach from the cable, slow down and go through the turn and loading area before reattaching to the cable and moving on. If most gondolas are carrying thru traffic who stay in their cars, do those gondola doors open and then shut in the station, or will the system keep their doors shut somehow? Also, for people at Riviera getting on the gondolas there, will they get on a stationary gondola waiting for them and then get moved to the attachment point, or will they need to wait for an already empty gondola on the route as it enters the station?

I would assume the doors would always open since it would be hard to know which people are destined for Riviera and which aren't. I also assume people will load into the moving cars. There will probably be a way for the Riviera station to tell Epcot or CBR to send empty cars when the Riviera line get's to long.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I would assume the doors would always open since it would be hard to know which people are destined for Riviera and which aren't. I also assume people will load into the moving cars. There will probably be a way for the Riviera station to tell Epcot or CBR to send empty cars when the Riviera line get's to long.

Doors opening at each station could cause some problems, ala the monorail and people not paying attention to where they are and getting out at the wrong stop. But outside of dedicated lines that don't stop, it's unavoidable, I guess.

The more you think about this, the more you realize this is a rather complex piece of engineering. Looking forward to this opening and then having discussions about actualities of the gondola.

 

[Grimley1968]

Doors opening at each station could cause some problems, ala the monorail and people not paying attention to where they are and getting out at the wrong stop. But outside of dedicated lines that don't stop, it's unavoidable, I guess.

The more you think about this, the more you realize this is a rather complex piece of engineering. Looking forward to this opening and then having discussions about actualities of the gondola.

I'm sure there will be a recorded spiel about doors opening/closing at Riviera that will become famous and that people will quote on their Disney message board profiles.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Doors opening at each station could cause some problems,

All stations except one are terminal stations where people must get off the gondola.

 

[HauntedPirate]

All stations except one are terminal stations where people must get off the gondola.

Oh good grief, I was thinking about turns plus stations. Ugh... Thanks for correcting me!

 

[Lensman]

Plus since it's a continuous loading system, if families accidentally get off at the Riviera Station instead of the Epcot station, they can just get right back on with little to no wait time. Lesson learned! Cost: 30 seconds.

 

[sndral]

Plus since it's a continuous loading system, if families accidentally get off at the Riviera Station instead of the Epcot station, they can just get right back on with little to no wait time. Lesson learned! Cost: 30 seconds.

Nope - the Gondola exit at Riviera will be through a DVC kiosk and no family that accidently disembarked at the Riviera station will be allowed to reboard a gondola until they have signed up to buy 75 Riviera DVC points.

 

[larryz]

I'm sure there will be a recorded spiel about doors opening/closing at Riviera that will become famous and that people will quote on their Disney message board profiles.

Just the Spanish version...

 

[admiralDax]

I don't think there will be any jumping involved. It is moving - slowly. And they CAN slow it if someone isn't moving quickly enough - or even divert it, if the plans are accurate. Just like the continuous loading rides that have been used for longer than many of you have been alive.

It just moves all the time, rather than coming to a complete stop (unless it must) loading up, and then leaving. Most of the time it will probably not have to slow down more than expected - I'm sure it is NOT designed to hit the loading stations at top speed, with people taking a leap on as it flashes by!

I was assuming that they would load from both points, the moving rail, for those able to walk on, and the holding rail, for those that need extra time. I noticed that the station at DHS has a gravity switch between the two lines so all the operator needs to do is push the stationary vehicle into the switch and the computer will release it into the flow when next possible. Just my observation.