Goofyernmost
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Exactly, but, I can see no reason why, with proper warning, they shouldn't just go cold Turkey, no bus is the obvious plan anyway.
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NormC
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You will still be able to take a bus. it just will not be a direct route. There will be stops and possible transfers. The Gondola will be the direct route. If you choose not to take it just give yourself much more time to get where you want to go.
For the lazy people that don't want to read the thread and be spoon fed their information; open wide, here comes the choo-choo:
https://www.doppelmayr.com/en/products/new-d-line/
For the lazy people that don't want to read the thread and be spoon fed their information; open wide, here comes the choo-choo:
https://www.doppelmayr.com/en/products/new-d-line/
Patcheslee
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Here's my one issue with the no bus idea. Currently booked for June 2019 which shows bus service. I don't see any official notice that direct bus service will cease once Skyliner opens. It seems an up in the air idea at this point. Anyone who is going to rely on Disney transport could by all rights be upset if buses suddenly stops without notice after bookings have already been made.
Lensman
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They could always do what they do with construction which is to offer to move you to a different resort.
Grimley1968
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The gondola system will possibly not be open to guests at that time, so ending bus service at affected resorts to DHS and EPCOT then would be unwise. Once the gondola system is up and running, though, it's beyond wasteful for them to have buses to the same places the gondolas go.
Kamikaze
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Based on previous information, the Skyliner will not be open in June 2019.
Once they have an opening date, they will send out and post notices about the changes to buses at the affected resorts.
I see what you did there...
Lets Respect
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In your booking, did WDW promise you bus service no matter what?
Because when they advertise the monorail resorts as having monorail access, they don't guarantee that the monorail will be always available. If they did, they'd be sued for breach of contract whenever the monorail breaks down and they provide buses in its place.
So, if you book at a resort that mentions bus service, and they switch it to gondola, good luck making the case they guaranteed you bus service.
peter11435
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The standard disclaimer applies.
Parks, restaurants, attractions, recreation, FastPass+ selections, entertainment, and other products, services or items are subject to change without notice, cancellation, and may close temporarily due to rehabilitation, refurbishing, capacity, seasonal, inclement weather or special events and may otherwise change or be discontinued without notice and without liability to the owners of the Walt Disney World®Resort.
Additionally they would still be providing transportation which in itself is more than they are legally required to provide since your room rate pays for the room only. The transportation is always advertised as complimentary.
Finally bus service would still be available to several destinations allowing for guests wishing to use buses to still access the gondola serviced parks via bus. They already include this disclaimer for bus service.
Some routes may require you to transfer buses.
Somewhere both a Doppelmayr and a Poma executive are crying out in pain.
All the information on the history of Stowe I could find says it's a Poma gondola. Finally, found an article from LiftBlog https://liftblog.com/gondola-stowe-vt/ that explains it. "CWA stuck Doppelmayr logos in these cabins when they refurbushed them even though the lift is a Poma."
Looks like it's an 8 passenger, so slightly smaller than what Disney will have at 10.
The loading pictures show that it does NOT have level loading. Also different than the Disney installation. For someone walking, this may not be a huge difference, but for anything with wheels, it's obviously critical. With level loading, it probably feels like you're moving slower, since there's no step up or down, just the two surfaces slowly moving past each other.
The history sites indicated Stowe's gondola was installed in 1991. I don't see when the cabins were refurbished or what was done to them. If it was just a cleaning and extra maintenance, they they're still 27 year old cabins optimized for winter use. Even if the the refurb was a complete replacement of all the cabins, they're still optimized for winter (and they don't look super new in the photos). A lot of material technologies have changed since then from better insulation to reflective coatings to different optimization techniques. I wouldn't compare these cabins to the new ones Disney is getting. It would be like comparing a '90s sedan to a current one and wondering where the back up camera was.
I don't think there will be any jumping involved. It is moving - slowly. And they CAN slow it if someone isn't moving quickly enough - or even divert it, if the plans are accurate. Just like the continuous loading rides that have been used for longer than many of you have been alive.
It just moves all the time, rather than coming to a complete stop (unless it must) loading up, and then leaving. Most of the time it will probably not have to slow down more than expected - I'm sure it is NOT designed to hit the loading stations at top speed, with people taking a leap on as it flashes by!
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shernernum
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lol, you know this is still going to get a literal response. We really need that sarcasm font.
trainplane3
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I nominate Comic Sans to be the official sarcasm font on here.
Patcheslee
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I understand all the disclaimers, it's the sudden changes to vacation plans people don't appreciate.
peter11435
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Hopefully people will appreciate the faster more efficient method of transportation.
People enjoy the buses because they get them to the parks, not because they are buses.
Goofyernmost
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There has been a saying around since the beginning of time that applies.... "In life, timing is everything. Things change... we flex or we die". You can't really, seriously, think that a place that provides a venue to thousands of people per day like WDW does can possibly take every single persons individual schedule into consideration, can you?
There has been plenty of promotion about the Gondola's over just the last year that unless people live under a rock or don't really care are going to not know about it. Then you have that other factor, of the number of people that reserve for the very week that the Gondola's open up, how many of those people are actually going to have a problem with riding something that is, for all intents and purposes, a kids ride. The numbers are mindbogglingly small and I think that Disney has taken that into consideration.