lazyboy97o
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Did the Orlando Sentinel publish the documents? It seems odd that they would hold back what they describe as public records.
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There is a picture of one of them in the video for the article, but they haven't published the actual documents.
Orlando Business Journal also has an article, but it's behind the pay wall.
deWild
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Sounds like the gondola system will begin construction very soon. I know that the gondolas are basically all but confirmed by Disney, but what if they're pulling our legs and the so-called gondola stations are actually designed for a bullet train from MCO? One can't help but wonder...
Work has technically already started.
deWild
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That was quick. Why can't they be this fast with other projects as well?
The time between the permits and start of construction has been the same as other projects. This project only feels faster to us because it was discovered so late in the development process.
rushtest4echo
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Sorry to veer toward the CBR discussion, but can we attribute the disappearance of moderate hotels a bit to the general decline of the American middle class?
The wealth gap has never been larger since WDW came to be. In the late 80's/early 90's Disney tried to lure the middle class. In the late 90's/early 2000's they went all value. For the last 10 years it's been a DVC/premium binge aside from Art of Animation. Maybe they've come to the realization that they need to offer more value and more premium rooms, and fewer moderate ones because the demand isn't there? Why would Disney continue to aim for the middle of the wealth spectrum when that's the one rapidly disappearing?
The wealth gap has never been larger since WDW came to be. In the late 80's/early 90's Disney tried to lure the middle class. In the late 90's/early 2000's they went all value. For the last 10 years it's been a DVC/premium binge aside from Art of Animation. Maybe they've come to the realization that they need to offer more value and more premium rooms, and fewer moderate ones because the demand isn't there? Why would Disney continue to aim for the middle of the wealth spectrum when that's the one rapidly disappearing?
rushtest4echo
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No, they'll both be deluxe offerings when completed (or at least priced that way). Hence the discussion of said things.
My understanding (and I have no inside information) is that portions of CBR and CSR would remain as they are today and be priced roughly as they are today, while the new portions will be priced more like deluxes. So you share most amenities (dining, pool, game room, etc.), but the higher-priced rooms get inside corridors instead of outside, better furnishings, larger rooms, and perhaps access to a pool that the moderate rooms don't have.
I assume the "one" that can't help but wonder is you, because the rest of us aren't wondering about that.
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rushtest4echo
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I can promise you that rates will be at least 20% higher for the older rooms when everything is finished for both of those resorts. And of course those rooms will have less supply due to the removals- and moderates are already under-represented.
uncle jimmy
Premium Member
From what I've read on the threads, the resorts will be moving towards a pricing based on location and theme... The closer to the park, the higher the price. But I suppose we'll have to wait and see if that happens or changes.
jt04
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You should change your AVATAR then.
jt04
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I think Uni is doing the same for VB resorts. Normal business practice.
Got it. If it's only a 20% bump, that's not Deluxe pricing, although it's in that direction. The difference from Moderate to Deluxe these days is at least a 50% bump - generally more.
Kamikaze
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Are you saying that the CBR tower isn't going to be DVC?
And the CSR tower was stated by Disney to be business-class rooms. Thats not 'Deluxe'.
