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rickdrat

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One though I had was storm water control. It looks like the "floor" of the storage area is just gravel, so if they don't put on a roof it doesn't count as a non-permeable surface for which they would have to do storm water control. There is also a lot of extra cost to building a building around them that will just sit empty 99% of the time. Not only do you need to build that structure but you need lighting, ventilation, fire suppression, etc.
That's a fair guess. I don't recall seeing any concept art for this so I don't know if there will be additional theming going in. Just strikes me as a butt ugly welcome for folks coming from the Studios.
 

Lift Blog

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That's a fair guess. I don't recall seeing any concept art for this so I don't know if there will be additional theming going in. Just strikes me as a butt ugly welcome for folks coming from the Studios.
Unfortunately for me I bet there will be a wall around it.
 

JoeCamel

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Unfortunately for me I bet there will be a wall around it.
Maybe a wall and could be camo over the top. That would cost about $400 and not need much engineering. It tears away in the hurricanes and can be replaced. Dis has used tensioned, fiberglass screens in other places.
 

Grimley1968

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It appears there will be some electrical power in the cars, because of the appearance of a bus bar in the station and the battery compartment on top of the cars. Also I personally think, just for simplicity, the doors will have a mechanical opener, plus some have shown indicators that it will be mechanical. So what will the power be for? I imagine there will be some LED lighting. But what else would require power? Small interior speaker for a spiel?
 

networkpro

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Yes
The gondolas I know of with wi-fi, the internet is tower-based, not cabin based.

It depends on the technology, if it's a mesh network then per cabin transponders for access and tower for distribution makes a better choice as you wouldn't have constant handoffs between clients and each tower. Remember the density is going to be greater than a ski resort.
 

joelkfla

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It appears there will be some electrical power in the cars, because of the appearance of a bus bar in the station and the battery compartment on top of the cars. Also I personally think, just for simplicity, the doors will have a mechanical opener, plus some have shown indicators that it will be mechanical. So what will the power be for? I imagine there will be some LED lighting. But what else would require power? Small interior speaker for a spiel?
Maybe an emergency intercom, via antennae or wi-fi on the towers.
 

begood524

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So in the video, I noticed that the turnaround mechanisms (i.e. the bullwheel) in the station at Caribbean Beach are exposed, as opposed to the ones at Epcot and HS that are completely covered on the underside. I noticed that the Pop/AoA station's underside is also exposed. Do we know if they will be covered up like the Epcot/HS ones or will they stay exposed?
 

GlacierGlacier

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So in the video, I noticed that the turnaround mechanisms (i.e. the bullwheel) in the station at Caribbean Beach are exposed, as opposed to the ones at Epcot and HS that are completely covered on the underside. I noticed that the Pop/AoA station's underside is also exposed. Do we know if they will be covered up like the Epcot/HS ones or will they stay exposed?
AoA seems to be behind compared to Epcot and DHS, and CBR is a technically complicated building. I'd assume they'll all get their appropriate coverings once the majority of electrical/systems work is complete.
 

lazyboy97o

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One though I had was storm water control. It looks like the "floor" of the storage area is just gravel, so if they don't put on a roof it doesn't count as a non-permeable surface for which they would have to do storm water control. There is also a lot of extra cost to building a building around them that will just sit empty 99% of the time. Not only do you need to build that structure but you need lighting, ventilation, fire suppression, etc.
I don’t remember the exact criteria, but there is a point where gravel will be considered an impermeable surface. A roof would not necessarily require ventilation or even fire suppression, but the vehicles are designed for outdoor use so it doesn't make much sense. There will be indoor maintenance facilities for each line.

AoA seems to be behind compared to Epcot and DHS, and CBR is a technically complicated building. I'd assume they'll all get their appropriate coverings once the majority of electrical/systems work is complete.
Caribbean Beach is not a technically complicated building. It's a rather straightforward steel building that is more roof than anything.
 

danlb_2000

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Original Poster
I don’t remember the exact criteria, but there is a point where gravel will be considered an impermeable surface. A roof would not necessarily require ventilation or even fire suppression, but the vehicles are designed for outdoor use so it doesn't make much sense. There will be indoor maintenance facilities for each line.

I was assuming a fully enclosed building. As you say since they are designed to be outside, and that is where they will spend most of their time, the added expense of even a roof isn't worth it.
 

GlacierGlacier

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Caribbean Beach is not a technically complicated building. It's a rather straightforward steel building that is more roof than anything.
The building itself may not be complicated. But the system of three gondola endpoints as well as the routing to/from storage for each route is a bit more complicated than a single endpoint.

These mechanics need to be somewhat completed before a ceiling is put in, again, similar to the other three endpoints and two turn stations.
 

SLUSHIE

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I think its really just the nature of a Gondola where the inner workings are highly visible. For instance the few shots where we see the guy pushing the cabin are verily likely to be visible by guests, and could even be where the queue is setup during operation. The gondola at Northstar, the 'Maze' is setup with stanchions exactly where the cabins are stored overnight. I don't think its really a concern that someone driving by at 5AM will see the cabins sitting out side. Also taking them off at night isn't exactly necessary, but with such a complex parking area it's likely they will.

They could do a lot of work to cover things up at the Caribbean station, but it could also stay very much as it is.
 
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lazyboy97o

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The building itself may not be complicated. But the system of three gondola endpoints as well as the routing to/from storage for each route is a bit more complicated than a single endpoint.

These mechanics need to be somewhat completed before a ceiling is put in, again, similar to the other three endpoints and two turn stations.
It’s three terminals next to each other. The storage yards and maintenance are just off to the side. Ceilings typically go in later.
 

OG Runner

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I think it is great that Disney is adding a transportation system that is generating the excitement of a new ride.
I know many people have some nits to pick, but overall, there is a bit of excitement for something that is being
constructed to get people from here to there. My next trip will not be until January 2020, for the marathon, so
I won't even be worried about the lack of air conditioning. :D
 

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