They'd have to put the calorie count on them then. No one wants to see that.
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They'd have to put the calorie count on them then. No one wants to see that.
And then you'd have people holding up the line, saying things like "I want to be a croque monsieur!"
Goofyernmost
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That is true, but, let's put this in perspective. The only ones that are going to see it up-close are those riding in the gondolas from the resorts and that will be a lesser percentage compared to general attendance. They might still be able to do something with it to make it less of a problem inside Epcot. Some of the solution with that is for us to not make it a terrible thing and use our imaginations, as we should be anyway to help willing suspension of disbelief, and just ignore it. After all is said and done it is still just a theme park.
GoofGoof
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No, I’m talking specifically about the forced perspective optical illusion used with the Eiffel Tower on top of the building in the France pavilion. The tower is much smaller than the real one, but placed on top of the building in the back it gives the illusion that the tower is far away and actually full size. It wasn’t done perfect, but it actually worked much better than Beast’s Castle in New Fantasyland. Both the gondola towers and the new show building for Rat have the potential to ruin the illusion. Not saying they can’t fix it.
tomast
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My personal opinion:
Gondolas: ok
Towers like dophin or swan: really really horrible
tomast
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just saying they would probably not fix it
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JoeCamel
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Otherwise they are squatters - fine lineonly if properly spending
Goofyernmost
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Yes, I know what you were talking about, which is why I think they will probably do something about it or we can ignore the Gondola's exactly like we can accept that we are looking at the Eiffel Tower from a long distance when we all know that it is sitting on top of a roof and is actually quite small. We know that yet, we still see it as it was intended.
I don't know how it is going to affect it, and frankly, considering what is happening in the "real world" I am at a loss to really think anything in the fake world is all that important. The overall gain, in my opinion, for having the Gondola's far outweighs one small detail. They can hide the Gondola's from view if they really wanted too, so lets just see if they do. Even the addition of "the rat" will destroy the perspective as seen from the pathway to it. Either way... I don't know just exactly how much it is going to be a problem or even if a fake structure designed to be an illusion is really all that important. I don't even find the Beast Castle to be a perspective problem except that the Dining Room is down at ground level like we are. That is much harder to fool the brain with. If I forget the restaurant is there I find it as realistic as any other fake thing in the wide world of fake scattered all over WDW. Before everyone goes Kindergarten on me, this is all my opinion. I have no idea how it will end up, but, am willing to wait and find out.
Wngo905
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- In the Parks
- No
Setting aside cost, it seems that the most likely and "coolest" solution would have been to build a larger Eiffel Tower and have the gondolas go through them. I am sure it would be possible and yes it would not be full scale BUT you could have it visible from the front side of France in the pavilion and not loose any substantive-reality perspective from those traveling on the gondolas.
Maybe they will still fix this problem before the opening of the gondolas, but I doubt it.
Maybe they will still fix this problem before the opening of the gondolas, but I doubt it.
DisAl
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They could fix it by building a full size Eiffel Tower....
This is the perfect example of how WDI can't seem to see the forest from the trees when it comes to doing these projects. There is no effort made to coordinate and shape the design so that it blends in rather than sticks out.
GOTG, SWGE, RAT, Gondolas, are recent examples of a total disregard for theming and continuity that used to be a hallmark for WDI.
WDI used to try so hard and succeed in integrating their designs with what was around them. Now it seems like they just don't care. Maybe they outsource to external contractors a lot of the design and engineering work, or maybe they just don't care anymore, but whatever it is, it's disappointing to see, especially considering the historical past of WDI and the ground breaking design and engineering that they were capable of.
Wngo905
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Not really. They would move the tower back (replacing a gondola tower with a replica of the Eiffel.) The height would not need to be much bigger than present. Another 10s of feet would not thow off the scale of the other countries since the tower would be behind the pavilion and off to the back side.
Wngo905
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- In the Parks
- No
i agree but was not going to bring that up or that why Epcot building a bigger model of their existing display of the tower did not change the "but we did it first (well after France)
" argument.
pdude81
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We're building a tower, and France is going to pay for it (again)i agree but was not going to bring that up or that why Epcot building a bigger model of their existing display of the tower did not change the "but we did it first (well after France)
Doug Means
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i agree but was not going to bring that up or that why Epcot building a bigger model of their existing display of the tower did not change the "but we did it first (well after France)
there is a tower in Las Vegas, is it the right size or smaller?
NobodyElse
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It's smaller than the original.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Paris at Vegas is less than half the real size... and is still nearly 3x taller than anything at wdw. The Epcot tower is like a desk decoration. It stands just about 100ft tall. Making it about 1/10th the real size.
That’s like the size of a R/C toy car
The tower in Vegas is ~540ft. That’s like a 50 story building.