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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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At ski resorts, much of the time, patrons themselves will take initiative to form into full groups by the main group calling out "single", the single rider responds in kind, those in line step aside to allow single rider to get to group. Would this work at WDW? Kind of doubt it.
It would work - :rolleyes: - you'd have whole families of "single!" people barging their way through the lines...
 

SLUSHIE

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Loading isn't my concern. Forming the groups of 8 might take some signage or help from employees. The actual getting on the chair will be gate and conveyor controlled. My concern is how 8 people get off without crashing into each other. The 6 person chairs I've ridden are stressful enough!

I think a chair like this would need a rather large unload area. Preferably one where the only real direction to go initially unloading from the chair is straight. On most larger chairs, the chair is much slower when unloading and allows for people to get up and different times and go in-front or behind each other.

I used to not like 6 person chairs at all, but as they have become more popular I have grown accustomed to them. I still prefer strongly prefer a quad though.
 

NelsonRD

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Has capacity been discussed in the 726 pages? Leaving Hollywood Studios earlier this week was pretty congested, and it looks like long lines are going to be an issue. Has a Gondola been installed to support any high capacity travel?

I have skied Whiteface in NY, and the Gondola has lines, I can't imagine what 60K leaving the park will be like.
 

trainplane3

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Has capacity been discussed in the 726 pages? Leaving Hollywood Studios earlier this week was pretty congested, and it looks like long lines are going to be an issue. Has a Gondola been installed to support any high capacity travel?

I have skied Whiteface in NY, and the Gondola has lines, I can't imagine what 60K leaving the park will be like.
It was discussed quite in depth:
It has been reported that Disney is shooting for 5000 people per hour per line in each direction. So that means that that system can carry 5000 people out of the IG every hour.

An important thing to remember is it'll servicing "only" a couple resorts.

Some people tried figuring out numbers and such as well. I'd try searching "per hour" in this thread and see what you can find if you want more detail.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Has capacity been discussed in the 726 pages? Leaving Hollywood Studios earlier this week was pretty congested, and it looks like long lines are going to be an issue. Has a Gondola been installed to support any high capacity travel?

I have skied Whiteface in NY, and the Gondola has lines, I can't imagine what 60K leaving the park will be like.
Yes, it’s been discussed a bunch. The capacity is significantly higher than the buses.

I’m not sure that 60K is the right number to look at. The gondolas will serve less than a quarter of on property hotels plus you have all the off property and local guests. Assuming the gondola serves 8K hotel rooms at an average of 3 people per room that’s less than 25K total guests and they would be spread at all 4 parks plus Disney Springs, hanging at the pool that night or going off property. It’s probably closer to 5K gondola resort guests at most at DHS or EPCOT in a given day. Now add in the fact that you have people leaving at all different times and it’s unlikely anywhere near 5,000 guests would be trying to leave and board the gondolas at once.

Here’s the most recent post on capacity.

This page has a live webcam of the Ramcharger lift. Dispatch interval is about 9.2 sec. If Skyliner dispatches at that rate, it would carry about 3900 pph with 10 per cabin, or about 3100 pph with 8 per cabin.

Assuming bus capacity at 75, that would be 1 busload every 69 secs. at 10/cabin, or 1 busload every 86 secs, at 8/cabin.
Disney is shooting for 5,000 pph but we will have to see. The point to remember is based on the numbers above it would take less than an hour if every gondola resort guest in the park at closing tried to board at the same time. The guests will not all be leaving at once, even after a fireworks show or Fantasmic it’s still a staggered exit since people walk at different speeds and some will linger longer while others will run for the exit. You won’t have 5,000 people in line at once.
 

DisneyCane

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You don't need exact groups of 8, and they won't worry about every cabin being full. You will just board with your group during most periods. If its extremely busy you might ride with another group (say 1 group of 3 and 1 group of 4), but during most periods they'll just give each group its own cabin. If there is a new cabin every 10 seconds it doesn't matter if they are all at capacity.
My post was about the 8 person chair lift at a ski resort that somebody posted.
 

joelkfla

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Has capacity been discussed in the 726 pages? Leaving Hollywood Studios earlier this week was pretty congested, and it looks like long lines are going to be an issue. Has a Gondola been installed to support any high capacity travel?

I have skied Whiteface in NY, and the Gondola has lines, I can't imagine what 60K leaving the park will be like.
It's expected that Skyliner capacity will exceed the capacity of the buses now leaving DHS for the 3 resorts, even if the actual capacity is well short of 5000 pph or 4500 pph.

There are a fixed number of buses available. They can be dispatched fairly quickly at first, but once they're all on the road, you have to wait for them to get back. OTOH, Skyliner can maintain it's capacity until everyone has been taken home.
 

Goofyernmost

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Loading isn't my concern. Forming the groups of 8 might take some signage or help from employees. The actual getting on the chair will be gate and conveyor controlled. My concern is how 8 people get off without crashing into each other. The 6 person chairs I've ridden are stressful enough!
I don't see them being all that concerned since there is another Gondola coming up only a few feet away. Eight if it instantly works out that way, six if a group of six happens to be next. Maybe the next is two people and the next group is 3, that is what will be riding that Gondola. The time it would take to sort out exact number would defeat the entire purpose. Most parts of the day, it will consist more of individual families because there is no need to crowd everyone into one cabin. I'm more then sure, it will work like clockwork and be a slick operation. Of this I have no doubt.
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Great! One more thing to fear about the gondolas.
We'll be waiting for you...
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jt04

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Private Dining Cabins already happen at ski resorts. No reason to think they won't happen at Disney.

I had in mind a magic band that has special features. Such as a limited number of 'wild card' fast passes. Daily round trip on Minnie vans. Private gondola cars. Discounts on special events. Guaranteed access even at busy times to parks. Something like that.
 

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