News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner -

mmascari

Well-Known Member
It depends. Three possible ways they could go about adding a Hollywood Studios to Animal Kingdom line:

1) build a new gondola. Passengers would have to transfer at Hollywood Studios.


I doubt they would extend the current station since this would require building out into the lake and as someone else mentioned, the line would go right over the park. Not only would that lead to bad back stage views it would make evacuations difficult. If they were to extend the line I think they would go with a second station at DHS that went south over the parking lots and the turned and went along Osceola Parkway. Of course this is all a blue sky discussion since insiders have said that other methods of transportation are being looked at for AK.

I think an even more basic question is, what would be a reason for better DHS to AK transportation? If there's no good reason, then there's no need for any route.

On the assumption that the transportation is really about moving between hotels and parks first, and between parks is just a side effect, the question is, what route would provide enough hotel to DHS and hotel to AK that also happens to connect them? Looking at a map, the distances are much longer than between Epcot and DHS with many less hotel rooms densely packed. We can blue sky all kinds of routes that include Coronado or the All Stars, even Blizzard beach for fun, but I'm not sure any of those is really dense enough for the distance or demand.


Between AKL and AK, seems like a no brainer. For anything that's not a bus, anything at all, but preferably something with no wait time. Looking at the map, I have a hard time drawing a straight line that makes sense for it to be a gondola. With a turn station, it's not so bad, but that increases the cost. For something else that can curve, it's easier but still not simple. Probably needs some road crossings or reconfiguration. That matches what we've heard, they're looking at something that isn't a gondola. Which is probably why they haven't done anything yet. As much as the generic complaint of only having bus service, it doesn't look like it's hurt AKL occupancy.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
I think an even more basic question is, what would be a reason for better DHS to AK transportation? If there's no good reason, then there's no need for any route.

On the assumption that the transportation is really about moving between hotels and parks first, and between parks is just a side effect, the question is, what route would provide enough hotel to DHS and hotel to AK that also happens to connect them? Looking at a map, the distances are much longer than between Epcot and DHS with many less hotel rooms densely packed. We can blue sky all kinds of routes that include Coronado or the All Stars, even Blizzard beach for fun, but I'm not sure any of those is really dense enough for the distance or demand.
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... which is probably why this route isn't even being considered.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Look at Priceline to see the rooms Disney is dumping during Christmas week. They're willing to cut prices to get their occupancy numbers up because they’re so soft. They won’t have to do that for resorts with Skyliner stops once it’s open.

OK, I guess that's a possibility. Good luck in keeping trying to make this a bad thing, though!
 

montyz81

Well-Known Member
In Florida, that would be the least of your worries considering the sand content of the soil and water table. Liquification would be substantial.
Right just standing in an open flat field in most parts of FL could get you buried. SSE would become a Geodesic dome rather than a sphere.
 

Bender123

Well-Known Member
Hard to argue with this... but it's the internet, so we'll try...! ;)

Oh, I know it. We are still having discussions about "phase II" of the gondolas, even though its been widely known that there will not be a phase II...Doesn't stop people from discussing it, just entertaining to see people openly ignore people with a near 1.000 batting average on these issues.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
Oh, I know it. We are still having discussions about "phase II" of the gondolas, even though its been widely known that there will not be a phase II...Doesn't stop people from discussing it, just entertaining to see people openly ignore people with a near 1.000 batting average on these issues.

I don't believe anyone ever said there wouldn't be a phase two, just that there is nothing currently in the works and that any plans for a phase 2 would come after the current phase was operational, and that they were considering other options for AK.
 
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Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Can you imaging being in a gondola when a major earthquake hits? :eek:
If a major earthquake hits central Florida, you will have more to worry about then whether or not you're in a Gondola. Like how long can you tread water? Interesting though... I wonder if there are any major faults running through under Florida. I don't care enough to look it up, but, it is interesting.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I’m pretty sure he/she was referring to the proposed gondolas in Oakland, CA, not the Disney ones in Florida.
Ok, missed what they quote was in reference too, but, when did this discussion stop being about the Gondola's in WDW? If they are on one in Cali during a major earthquake it probably wouldn't be much more then a bumpy ride.
 

kurtk

Well-Known Member
If a major earthquake hits central Florida, you will have more to worry about then whether or not you're in a Gondola. Like how long can you tread water? Interesting though... I wonder if there are any major faults running through under Florida. I don't care enough to look it up, but, it is interesting.
I worked in Florida at a place that cared about earthquakes. My understanding from the civil engineers is that Florida is not prone to earthquakes. Hurricanes, tornados, sinkholes yes but not earthquakes.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Ok, missed what they quote was in reference too, but, when did this discussion stop being about the Gondola's in WDW? If they are on one in Cali during a major earthquake it probably wouldn't be much more then a bumpy ride.
Lift Blog posted this:
The Oakland Athletics have proposed a 6,000 passenger per hour aerial gondola to their planned new stadium.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...s-propose-jewel-box-ballpark-for-13426272.php
Someone commented on the risk of being stuck in a gondola there during an earthquake. Probably a valid concern but also not a reason to not build it. I wouldn’t want to be caught on a bridge in an earthquake either but they still build plenty of bridges in CA.
 

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