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[marni1971]

What is this supposed to be? There is no direct switching between the lines. Each line has direct access to a storage area. The space in the center is where guests enter the different queues.

Confused me too.

 

[Lensman]

Bioreconstruct has been posting a lot lately:

 

[danlb_2000]

That kinda clears it up for me in my head. Thanks!


That's true too. I hadn't thought of that. I'd imagine though it'd be a bit redundant to just leave a tagged out cabin cycling and having to tell guests to wait for another one as the tagged out one is passing through..

I believe the door opening mechanism can be disabled on a car so there would be no need to tell people not to board it.

 

[Maeryk]

This operates by roughly the same principle you just described. The experience will be very much the same.

Actually.. those vent by pulling air in through the top, down through the "bowl" and then up the vent stack, to keep the smells away from you.. as such they are far less effective than the "chimney effect" described.

I love how everyone knows how horrible these are going to be, sight unseen.. (mostly other boards who are convinced it's a skyride)

 

[monothingie]

Actually.. those vent by pulling air in through the top, down through the "bowl" and then up the vent stack, to keep the smells away from you.. as such they are far less effective than the "chimney effect" described.

I love how everyone knows how horrible these are going to be, sight unseen.. (mostly other boards who are convinced it's a skyride)

When you have a days worth of people packed into a monorail car that is for the most part air conditioned and the car still smells like a barn, it’s a very safe assumption to say that an unconditioned gondola full of sweaty hot guests will be worse.

 

[joelkfla]

When you have a days worth of people packed into a monorail car that is for the most part air conditioned and the car still smells like a barn, it’s a very safe assumption to say that an unconditioned gondola full of sweaty hot guests will be worse.

I don't think that's safe. The gondolas will constantly have fresh air flowing thru them. I don't know how much fresh air the monorail's a/c pumps in, but my guess is that complete air exchange will occur much more frequently for the gondola than for a monorail car.

 

[nolatron]

Wonder if you'd be able to just walk to the CBR station from those AoA/POP buildings closest to the CBR and then just catch the line to Epcot or DHS.

The walk from the furthest AoA building to the AoA station is almost the same as walking under the Gondola line to the CBR station, about .30 miles.

 

[monothingie]

I don't think that's safe. The gondolas will constantly have fresh air flowing thru them. I don't know how much fresh air the monorail's a/c pumps in, but my guess is that complete air exchange will occur much more frequently for the gondola than for a monorail car.

Monorail doors are open for extremely long periods of time, especially on the resort line. Which also happens to smell the worst imo.

 

[MisterPenguin]

When you have a days worth of people packed into a monorail car that is for the most part air conditioned and the car still smells like a barn, it’s a very safe assumption to say that an unconditioned gondola full of sweaty hot guests will be worse.

The Skyliner won't smell. It'll be like an autoclave and kill off all bacteria.

Wonder if you'd be able to just walk to the CBR station from those AoA/POP buildings closest to the CBR and then just catch the line to Epcot or DHS.

The walk from the furthest AoA building to the AoA station is almost the same as walking under the Gondola line to the CBR station, about .30 miles.

They're not going to let you walk that gravel path under the Skyliner and there's no crosswalk going over Pop's driveway which is four lanes traffic.

 

[monothingie]

The Skyliner won't smell. It'll be like an autoclave and kill off all bacteria.

Are guests considered bacteria? Well I guess when Skyliner becomes self aware then yes.

 

[MaximumEd]

Hate they are putting panels on the ceiling of the stations. I wanted to see those bullwheels spinning. We complain that Disney is becoming Six Flags, but this is one instance where it wouldn't be bad. When we go to SF over Georgia, it's cool to ride the sky buckets and see all the moving machinery in the stations. I know there's several generations of improvements and a whole lotta technology between the two, but exposed bullwheels would have been neat.

 

[winstongator]

What will be the time from groundbreaking to guest usage for this? I’m wondering how fast they could get other lines operating, should this one be considered successful.

 

[MaximumEd]

According to some posts from Lift Blog, they could get a line up and running in a few months. Being that it's Disney, who knows?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Hate they are putting panels on the ceiling of the stations. I wanted to see those bullwheels spinning. We complain that Disney is becoming Six Flags, but this is one instance where it wouldn't be bad. When we go to SF over Georgia, it's cool to ride the sky buckets and see all the moving machinery in the stations. I know there's several generations of improvements and a whole lotta technology between the two, but exposed bullwheels would have been neat.

Perhaps they will do like they do at some of the attractions and have TV monitors to show you how the thing works while you are approaching the boarding area. To help with the vision, it is just a big red thing that doesn't go anywhere, but, continues to go around in a circle and has a cable making a 180 degree turn. Sort of like the wheels on a bus that just go round and round.

 

[winstongator]

According to some posts from Lift Blog, they could get a line up and running in a few months. Being that it's Disney, who knows?

I like using available data. I was there in early February, and I think they were just starting to dam off part of the waterway from boardwalk to dhs (we walked the path and took the boat back). Say, feb 2018-may 2019 - 15 months? So to get open August 2021 you’d need to start May 2020...

I’d guess they either already have some planning or have it (the planning) scheduled for expansion. It’ll be there late 2019 (along wi5h assessments of that other project) for a go/no-go.

There are some short hops possible. It won’t happen everywhere or for every resort-park combo, but imagine the improved guest satisfaction reducing times waiting for buses.

 

[Minthorne]

Air conditioning (or lack thereof) seems to be a "hot" topic around here. That, and the fact that some people make everything political - if I tell you I like ice cream some will turn it into a political debate.

2 scoops of Ice Cream for everyone! (And a chicken in every pot!)

 

[MaximumEd]

I like using available data. I was there in early February, and I think they were just starting to dam off part of the waterway from boardwalk to dhs (we walked the path and took the boat back). Say, feb 2018-may 2019 - 15 months? So to get open August 2021 you’d need to start May 2020...

I’d guess they either already have some planning or have it (the planning) scheduled for expansion. It’ll be there late 2019 (along wi5h assessments of that other project) for a go/no-go.

There are some short hops possible. It won’t happen everywhere or for every resort-park combo, but imagine the improved guest satisfaction reducing times waiting for buses.

My bad. Thought you meant how fast do gondola systems go up in other places. Personally, I'm super excited for this to open and would like to see it expanded, if successful. It's fast, efficient, has that cool factor, and beats monorail expansion on cost.

 

[danlb_2000]

What will be the time from groundbreaking to guest usage for this? I’m wondering how fast they could get other lines operating, should this one be considered successful.

First land clearing at CBR was reported on Jun 26, 2017 which I believe was the first visible construction. So we are looking at close to two years.

 

[winstongator]

First land clearing at CBR was reported on Jun 26, 2017 which I believe was the first visible construction. So we are looking at close to two years.

That puts my calculation in the very tight window for 50 th anniversary. Gondolas won’t help to MK though. Maybe Epcot 40? The all-stars and Coronado were the other I thought and that can work on its own schedule. Reducing transit times to & from resorts makes park hopping easier. From a DIS management POV, I see one huge benefit to that.

 

[winstongator]

My bad. Thought you meant how fast do gondola systems go up in other places. Personally, I'm super excited for this to open and would like to see it expanded, if successful. It's fast, efficient, has that cool factor, and beats monorail expansion on cost.

My real question is, will Disney do more gondolas, and will they try to get them done before MK 50th anniversary. The shortest hop I see is Port Orleans to Epcot, or maybe Coronado to AK.