V_L_Raptor
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It's amazing the things folks will do when they don't have A/C.
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It's amazing the things folks will do when they don't have A/C.
Lift Blog
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Since the air conditioning topic just won't seem to go away, I recently came across the below as part of an interview with the CEO of a Doppelmayr competitor (translated from French.)
> What is the Sigma solution for combating heat in the booths of urban appliances in a hot environment? Is the dream of an air-conditioned cabin feasible?
-Currently the simplest solution is ventilation. We are lucky to have a vehicle that moves, so we find easy ventilation by creating a flow of air in the cabin. We have done extensive studies on the airflow in our cabins to maintain an equivalent temperature inside and out. We also tested in climatic chambers and we found that with our ventilation system we never had more than 1.5 degrees of elevation inside the cabin compared to the outside, despite the people on board and despite the solar radiation.
Then, we are looking for other solutions. The difficulty is not to cool a cabin as such. We know how to do it, in the context of ferris wheels, as soon as we have energy. With electric power, cabin air conditioning is easy to perform. Our difficulty is to bring energy to the moving vehicle. We work on different research and solutions.
> What technical developments do you see in the near future on cabins?
-Air conditioning is an important issue, because when we find a real solution markets will open. We are also researching solutions that will consume less energy, with adiabatic coolers that do not work in all outdoor conditions. Otherwise, I think that digital onboard booths will grow more and more thanks to electrical and communications options. For now, digital is mostly present in the tourist field, but it will also happen on the snow markets.
https://www.remontees-mecaniques.ne...ecialiste-des-cabines-du-groupe-poma-172.html
> What is the Sigma solution for combating heat in the booths of urban appliances in a hot environment? Is the dream of an air-conditioned cabin feasible?
-Currently the simplest solution is ventilation. We are lucky to have a vehicle that moves, so we find easy ventilation by creating a flow of air in the cabin. We have done extensive studies on the airflow in our cabins to maintain an equivalent temperature inside and out. We also tested in climatic chambers and we found that with our ventilation system we never had more than 1.5 degrees of elevation inside the cabin compared to the outside, despite the people on board and despite the solar radiation.
Then, we are looking for other solutions. The difficulty is not to cool a cabin as such. We know how to do it, in the context of ferris wheels, as soon as we have energy. With electric power, cabin air conditioning is easy to perform. Our difficulty is to bring energy to the moving vehicle. We work on different research and solutions.
> What technical developments do you see in the near future on cabins?
-Air conditioning is an important issue, because when we find a real solution markets will open. We are also researching solutions that will consume less energy, with adiabatic coolers that do not work in all outdoor conditions. Otherwise, I think that digital onboard booths will grow more and more thanks to electrical and communications options. For now, digital is mostly present in the tourist field, but it will also happen on the snow markets.
https://www.remontees-mecaniques.ne...ecialiste-des-cabines-du-groupe-poma-172.html
Well, it's a good feeling to know that a 94 degree day won't feel any higher than 95.5 degrees in the gondola.
MinnieM123
Premium Member
Maybe it's so low that there will be less of a feeling of vertigo from the people who are afraid of riding it? Perhaps they will say, "Damn, those gondolas are so low to the ground that riding them didn't bother me as much as I thought it would."
Not for everyone, but I don't think the vertigo will be like you experience on the Peak 2 Peak gondola at Whistler.
Also, I don't think anyone will be base jumping from the Disney Skyliner.
Just watched that video. Those guys are crazy. What I found even more surprising was that they actually got permission to ride on the top of those gondolas, and then jump off. Can't even imagine the waivers they had to sign for that stunt!
Lift Blog
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The original jump was part of the opening festivities.Just watched that video. Those guys are crazy. What I found even more surprising was that they actually got permission to ride on the top of those gondolas, and then jump off. Can't even imagine the waivers they had to sign for that stunt!
Then another guy did it without permission at all and I don’t think he was ever caught.
What happens when the departure/arrival headcount is off by one or more?
mmascolino
New Member
The woman was caught and arrested but the man hasn't been:
http://www.whistlerquestion.com/new...nced-in-peak-2-peak-base-jump-stunt-1.1621307
http://www.whistlerquestion.com/new...nced-in-peak-2-peak-base-jump-stunt-1.1621307
SteveAZee
Premium Member
That 1.5 degrees may not be Fahrenheit.Well, it's a good feeling to know that a 94 degree day won't feel any higher than 95.5 degrees in the gondola.
+1.5 C x 9/5 = +2.7 F
trainplane3
Well-Known Member
He actually died attempting a wing suit jump in China.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/spo...na-tianmen-mountain-canadian/article34415146/
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lazyboy97o
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Not by much.
Lift Blog
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Sad story. One of the original BASE jumpers died on another jump a few months after Peak 2 Peak. Puts gondola safety in perspective.
DisneyCane
Well-Known Member
How is gondola safety in any way related to BASE jumping? The former is an engineered system with safety systems. The latter is a high risk activity done by adrenaline junkies.
That's like saying that a BASE jumper dying puts the safety of sitting on the couch in perspective.
Skibum1970
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Agreed. If anything, it shows that gondolas are far preferable to falling off a cliff. I'd rather ride in a cable car than have to climb a mountain on foot. Just like many things, the system is very safe but humans are idiots. Some could say Darwinism just put a little chlorine in the gene pool.
Disone
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