News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner -

[peter11435]

I am not a chiding loon. (a little crazy, scared of heights, and a little disaster phobic, but not a loon)
I like Disney! The only place I have vacationed over the last 10 years has been Disney, but there was a
reason that they removed the "skyliners" from both Disneyland and Disney World. Yes, this will probably
be the best gondola system out there, but to think there will not be breakdowns, just is not realistic. Also
to think Disney will be taking away other travel options for this option, is wrong. Then even penalizing
you if you have an option, your own vehicle, which will now be charged for parking.

Breakdowns were not the reason the skyway was removed. This system does not posses the same issues that resulted in the skyway closing.

Disney will be removing other transportation options.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The gondolas will be great!... until someone’s realizes that Florida weather is incongruent to having 1000s of guests dangle from the sky in torrential rain storms, high winds, extreme lightening and power outages. They also will destroy vistas, perspectives and the natural beauty. Just build more monorails Disney! Sometimes the best choice is the most expensive choice.

You forgot the gators and the lightning.

And the plague. And World War II air fighters strafing the cabins.

 

[OG Runner]

Breakdowns were not the reason the skyway was removed. This system does not posses the same issues that resulted in the skyway closing.

Disney will be removing other transportation options.

Just to clarify I did not think it is a wrong assumption. I just feel it is the wrong thing to do.

 

[Rlandrigan]

And the plague. And World War II air fighters strafing the cabins.

In fairness, with the Kermit Weeks museum and Sun and Fun flyins every year, WWII fighters are a more credible threat than many of the doom and gloom scenarios presented....

 

[JoeCamel]

I can see it now: Bright, multicolored gondolas raining down from above on hapless bystanders... ooohh the humanity.

Ya know, if there's one thing I DON'T worry about whilst at WDW, its the safety precautions they've built into their ride systems. I swear, no one on these damn boards are happy with anything. The gondolas scream of Old School Disney nostalgia. Something everyone on here is always clamoring for, all.day.long.

They build something cool like this and still get chided by the loons.. Now... The icing on the cake... Throw some ad graphics for an IP on the outside of them, a Disney propaganda video playing inside, and have them stop every 3 minutes to load some lazy jacka$$ with a scooter into them, now, now you'll have me in your court throwing shade.

I wouldn't feel too secure with TWDC safety precautions. There have been injuries and deaths on the rides and property. In proportion to the number of visits it is small but it happens. You are responsible for your own safety at all times. If you rely on them to do it for you you just may end up dead.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I wouldn't feel too secure with TWDC safety precautions. There have been injuries and deaths on the rides and property. In proportion to the number of visits it is small but it happens. You are responsible for your own safety at all times. If you rely on them to do it for you you just may end up dead.

My Father died while sitting in his LazyBoy reading the newspaper and sipping his coffee. Man there is disaster around every corner isn't there? There are thousands of people in WDW on a daily basis. It's amazing that more people don't go to the big theme park in the sky during their visit. Very few of those injuries are because of negligence. They were illnesses, accidents and people not following safety procedures.

I am not a chiding loon. (a little crazy, scared of heights, and a little disaster phobic, but not a loon) I like Disney! The only place I have vacationed over the last 10 years has been Disney, but there was a reason that they removed the "skyliners" from both Disneyland and Disney World. Yes, this will probably be the best gondola system out there, but to think there will not be breakdowns, just is not realistic. Also
to think Disney will be taking away other travel options for this option, is wrong. Then even penalizing
you if you have an option, your own vehicle, which will now be charged for parking.

You are right, they are swiftly limiting your choices, but, one choice you do have is that you do not have to stay at any of the Gondola resorts, so you can avoid them completely. I chose years ago to stay offsite so not that much has changed for me.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I am not a chiding loon. (a little crazy, scared of heights, and a little disaster phobic, but not a loon)
I like Disney! The only place I have vacationed over the last 10 years has been Disney, but there was a
reason that they removed the "skyliners" from both Disneyland and Disney World. Yes, this will probably
be the best gondola system out there, but to think there will not be breakdowns, just is not realistic. Also
to think Disney will be taking away other travel options for this option, is wrong. Then even penalizing
you if you have an option, your own vehicle, which will now be charged for parking.

Is it
realistic to do
some basic
research
before repeating
spurious claims?

 

[davis_unoxx]

Unless someone shouts from them yes.

How much would Disney charge for a pair of "Magical" Ear plugs to block the sound of screaming children?

 

[OG Runner]

Is it
realistic to do
some basic
research
before repeating
spurious claims?

Sir, my research is my experience. I was on the "skyliner" in 1986, during my journey from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland,
the ride stopped, before the turn and we hung there for about 15 minutes. We later found out is was due to someone
falling during loading. Obviously it is not realistic for you, not to comment, on things you have no knowledge of.

 

[NormC]

I wasn't but a few of the seawalls in the area were. I work for an insurance agency, and was actually surprised how few flood claims
we had.

It was awesome to watch for sure. Still digging out from this weeks snow. More next week.

 

[Bender123]

Sir, my research is my experience. I was on the "skyliner" in 1986, during my journey from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland,
the ride stopped, before the turn and we hung there for about 15 minutes. We later found out is was due to someone
falling during loading. Obviously it is not realistic for you, not to comment, on things you have no knowledge of.

Sigh...Comparing the old skyway ride with the gondola system is like comparing a gokart to SUV. Yes, they both have the same general concept for a drive system, but the are very very different in terms of features, mechanics, capacity and capabilities. This isn't a midway sky ride, this is a purpose built mass transit system that is in use all over the world.

 

[rle4lunch]

How much would Disney charge for a pair of "Magical" Ear plugs to block the sound of screaming children?

Instead of "glow with the show", it'll be "flair in the air!"

 

[NormC]

And World War II air fighters strafing the cabins.

That would make a cool movie scene! Much better than sharks in a tornado!

 

[GeneralKnowledge]

Sigh...Comparing the old skyway ride with the gondola system is like comparing a gokart to SUV. Yes, they both have the same general concept for a dive system, but the are very very different in terms of features, mechanics, capacity and capabilities. This isn't a midway sky ride, this is a purpose built mass transit system that is in use all over the world.

...but it stopped that one time he rode it 30 years ago....certainly that will be the daily MO for this system

 

[OG Runner]

It was awesome to watch for sure. Still digging out from this weeks snow. More next week.

And some people still wonder why we vacation in Florida.

 

[OG Runner]

...but it stopped that one time he rode it 30 years ago....certainly that will be the daily MO for this system

Oh no, I am sure it will work perfectly. Sorry, but I am from the Northeast and an avid skier. Do you know how often chairlifts
and gondolas stop. I used the example of the old skyliner, because it happen at WDW. I have mentioned previously, this year
alone, at least 3 ski areas here had breakdowns that required the people be removed by rescue equipment. You can "fluff" it off
as much as you want, but I guarantee there will be days when this system will breakdown and on the day, I can only hope, you
are out there, hanging over the trees between CBR and Epcot.

 

[GeneralKnowledge]

Oh no, I am sure it will work perfectly. Sorry, but I am from the Northeast and an avid skier. Do you know how often chairlifts
and gondolas stop. I used the example of the old skyliner, because it happen at WDW. I have mentioned previously, this year
alone, at least 3 ski areas here had breakdowns that required the people be removed by rescue equipment. You can "fluff" it off
as much as you want, but I guarantee there will be days when this system will breakdown and on the day, I can only hope, you
are out there, hanging over the trees between CBR and Epcot.

I get your point. I was just mocking the way you presented your evidence for the system failing. You acted as if that one experience in the 80’s was going to be the norm. Obviously the system will break down with some level of frequency, but it’s going to be insignificant.

I am an avid skier as well and the majority of lift stops have to do with inexperienced people with giant planks attached to their feet tripping up. The slow down point on this is going to be ECVs. The majority of ECV drivers will do fine but the ones like the old lady on my most recent trip who crashed into the bus ramp so hard that the ramp broke and couldn’t close and maintenance had to come fix it are going to be the problem, but overall it’s going to be a manageable problem.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Oh no, I am sure it will work perfectly. Sorry, but I am from the Northeast and an avid skier. Do you know how often chairlifts
and gondolas stop. I used the example of the old skyliner, because it happen at WDW. I have mentioned previously, this year
alone, at least 3 ski areas here had breakdowns that required the people be removed by rescue equipment. You can "fluff" it off
as much as you want, but I guarantee there will be days when this system will breakdown and on the day, I can only hope, you
are out there, hanging over the trees between CBR and Epcot.

You’re still just giving anecdotal evidence. Those 3 rescues are among how many lifts that run how frequently?

 

[Bender123]

Oh no, I am sure it will work perfectly. Sorry, but I am from the Northeast and an avid skier. Do you know how often chairlifts
and gondolas stop. I used the example of the old skyliner, because it happen at WDW. I have mentioned previously, this year
alone, at least 3 ski areas here had breakdowns that required the people be removed by rescue equipment. You can "fluff" it off
as much as you want, but I guarantee there will be days when this system will breakdown and on the day, I can only hope, you
are out there, hanging over the trees between CBR and Epcot.

And busses never break down, get caught in traffic or cause discomfort. The monorails have never broken down before. We know machines break down. It happens. The issue isn't that it will break down, its is it more reliable and faster than other forms of transport that is available.

 

[DisneyJeff]

I get your point. I was just mocking the way you presented your evidence for the system failing. You acted as if that one experience in the 80’s was going to be the norm. Obviously the system will break down with some level of frequency, but it’s going to be insignificant.

I am an avid skier as well and the majority of lift stops have to do with inexperienced people with giant planks attached to their feet tripping up. The slow down point on this is going to be ECVs. The majority of ECV drivers will do fine but the ones like the old lady on my most recent trip who crashed into the bus ramp so hard that the ramp broke and couldn’t close and maintenance had to come fix it are going to be the problem, but overall it’s going to be a manageable problem.

Earlier in this thread, someone (I believe it may have been @Lift Blog) said that these systems normally have backup drive systems in the case of an emergency or failure. If the main drive system would malfunction, they could use the backup system to safely cycle through occupied cabins to remove passengers.