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King Panda 77

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marni1971

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Exactly.

This misnomer that this is some cheap mass transit solution is rediculous.

My guess is probably around $400 million or so...

I'm going to guess it rises even higher when they have to start messing with the engineered bases for the support pillions crossing the lesser developed areas.

Not that monorails or anything else would have been any less (if not more expensive) but this is NOT a miracle transportation system, it will cost money, lots of it, to build.


Lower.
 

MisterPenguin

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Well, there is land clearing with restructuring busing and pedestrian traffic. There is sinking massive concrete pillars (hillsides and cities are usually on bedrock making anchoring towers easier). And there is the theming of each station. Plus the purchasing of boats and vehicles for rescues. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney accounting is adding in the cost of labor and maintenance for maybe the life of the gondola system.
 

flynnibus

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Without giving a number how much more would a monorail system that services the same area have cost?
They must have done comps as part of their due diligence, right?

The number is shaming considering the La Paz Bolivia system... which was 6+miles, 3 lines, 7 stations and was the largest URBAN (and was on a mountain..) system at the time in 2014 was only $234 million.

Disney's is just cutting across it's own flat property.. I know the footings are some work (maybe the lagoon side is expensive..) but come on.. that is a significantly larger system.
 

G00fyDad

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The La Paz


The number is shaming considering the La Paz Bolivia system... which was 6+miles, 3 lines, 7 stations and was the largest URBAN (and was on a mountain..) system at the time in 2014 was only $234 million.

Disney's is just cutting across it's own flat property.. I know the footings are some work (maybe the lagoon side is expensive..) but come on.. that is a significantly larger system.

When have you ever known Disney to spend their money efficiently? Just sayin....
 

monothingie

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Construction fences are already in the process of being put up at the Studios station this week. International Gateway has walls up already.
 

monothingie

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The La Paz


The number is shaming considering the La Paz Bolivia system... which was 6+miles, 3 lines, 7 stations and was the largest URBAN (and was on a mountain..) system at the time in 2014 was only $234 million.

Disney's is just cutting across it's own flat property.. I know the footings are some work (maybe the lagoon side is expensive..) but come on.. that is a significantly larger system.

Most of the cost associated with the infrastructure (not trains) is Engineering and Labor. To compare a system built outside the US not an apples to apples comparison. Labor costs are everything here. That $234 Million dollar system could be $3 Billion dollars to do in the US.

Look at the World Drive interchange project. That is probably a $75+ million dollar project. The primary cost? Labor.
 

Kamikaze

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Higher. That's as specific as I'll be for now.

I don't even understand how thats possible.

This system:
http://www.newenglandskihistory.com/lifts/viewlift.php?id=808 is extremely similar to what Disney is getting. Runs 8 person gondolas as well as chairs. Doppelmayr designed. $7.2m for over a mile but including 1100 feet of incline which obviously Disney doesn't have to deal with building up mountains. Even if you doubled that (because everything Disney builds gets the prices jacked), you'd get $15m x 3 (3 mile system) for $45m for the whole system. I don't see any way this can possibly cost over $50m, unless they are wrapping some of the Riviera cost into it.

Oh, and this whole system went up in 6 months.
 

Kamikaze

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Without giving a number how much more would a monorail system that services the same area have cost?
They must have done comps as part of their due diligence, right?

I mean, the gondola number doesn't make sense, so the monorail cost would have to be literally billions of dollars to do the same thing.
 

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