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[WallyWorld]

We have gone beyond how neat this is and gone to what the heck is going on.

I will still state bad planning and under specifications are the cause now. We are seeing cascade failures happening.

Underpowered motors getting too hot an tripping breakers?

Systems getting failure commands from a computer that is malfunctioning? Windows 10 maybe. Switch to Linux.

A phone to take care of reservations is a misdirection aimed at tourists and does not fix the obviously inherent problens with the system.

A bus or even monorail is easier to evacuate. They are concentrated in one place. The Skyliner has people in the air over distance. A monorail can be pushed, pulled or evacuated by cherry picker. A bus you walk out of.

DISNEY: Come on guys and girls. You can and have done way better. You can fix this and the other abhorrent show issues. Pay the money up front and you won't have to spend more later to fix things. You charge for everything and make record profits. Get off your butts and do it right from the start. HEAR THAT CHAPEK AND IGER? Need somebody to step in and help get it done? Give me the job. I'll do it for the mid 5 figures and a bonus package. I'll send you a resume and a recomendation if you want one.

Somebody needs to get pins made that says the I survived the WDW Skyliner. I wanna buy one or five.

"Look at the news and it will confirm ............ how much exaggerating is done"

Mentioned above......here is extreme exaggeration......

 

[GoofGoof]

"Look at the news and it will confirm ............ how much exaggerating is done"

Mentioned above......here is extreme exaggeration......

Are you saying the exaggeration is that these stoppage even occur? Or how frequent? Or how long they last?

Or are you saying the reactions to the stoppages are exaggerations and people should just go with the flow and suck it up?

 

[Phil12]

We’re at WDW in 2 1/2 weeks. Were going to stay at Riviera but then the big breakdown occurred so we switched to Beach Club. Really glad we did, although we rode the Skyliner in November with no problems. 17 mins from DHS to EPCOT can’t be beat

It only takes about 15 to 20 minutes to walk from DHS to EPCOT. So yes, it can be beat.

 

[IanDLBZF]

It only takes about 15 to 20 minutes to walk from DHS to EPCOT. So yes, it can be beat.

30 mins by boat.

 

[IanDLBZF]

Anyone know who supplies Disney with the emergency kits for Skyliner? I want to bid on the contract - can put my kids through college just in volume of replenishments alone!

If I’m not mistaken that information is confidential.

 

[Phil12]

Anyone know who supplies Disney with the emergency kits for Skyliner? I want to bid on the contract - can put my kids through college just in volume of replenishments alone!

The Royal Air Force:

WDW got a great discount on expired R.A.F. emergency ration kits.

 

[joelkfla]

Another evacuation:

Disney Guests Experience Down Time and Evacuations on Skyliner

The Skyliner can't catch a break, especially during one of the busiest weeks of the year at Disney World. Several of the Disney Skyliner routes have been

www.kennythepirate.com

The above states:

Recently, guest service phone boxes were installed in the cabins that allowed guests to call in if downtime on the Skyliner caused them to miss reservations. It is not to be used for emergency situations.

Is this true? I thought they had just put up stickers with a phone number.

 

[joelkfla]

I think all the issues can be traced to the Riviera Station. There's too much evidence otherwise to show this.

What evidence?

 

[trainplane3]

The above states:

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Is this true? I thought they had just put up stickers with a phone number.

Partially.

The phone boxes were in there on day one. Last week they added a sticker with a number to call if you were about to miss any kind of reservation.

For whatever reason, that site merged the two together. They are two separate things. Box=emergencies. Sticker=reservation you call from your phone.

 

[Victor Kelly]

Are you saying the exaggeration is that these stoppage even occur? Or how frequent? Or how long they last?

Or are you saying the reactions to the stoppages are exaggerations and people should just go with the flow and suck it up?

He is mad that someone pointed out and brought forth a logical arguement and theory as to the current issues with the sky stopper.

 

[peter11435]

He is mad that someone pointed out and brought forth a logical arguement and theory as to the current issues with the sky stopper.

Really all you did was make stuff up.

 

[Victor Kelly]

Really all you did was make stuff up.

Nice try to deflect. But no.

 

[peter11435]

Nice try to deflect. But no.

No? Lol

That’s exactly what you did. You have no accurate information about the nature of the issues so you made up possible explanations that have no basis in reality.

 

[Goofyernmost]

"Look at the news and it will confirm ............ how much exaggerating is done"

Mentioned above......here is extreme exaggeration......

Then you, my friend are not paying attention to anything but your own alternate reality.

 

[Goofyernmost]

why did you have to go back and edit your post?

Because I forgot to include thoughts for those that are unable to comprehend easily. Guess I didn't do it well enough.

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

What evidence?

Well, first off, the Riviera Station is the only one without a dedicated ADA loop, and must stop the whole EPCOT/Riviera line to load someone who needs extra assistance. Therefore, this places strain (and technical difficulty) on a massive gondola system which requires continuous movement, and this messes with the computers, hence the October incident. (None of this has been confirmed by Disney, I'm just speculating from what I've heard on here and what I know.) Additionally, as @Ratatouille stated, the issues at the Skyliner yesterday were all on the EPCOT line, which led to a fatal flaw, shutting down the entire system. This Riviera station, requiring constant stops, is what caused many of these issues. Had this Riviera station been merged with the Caribbean Beach resort station, I feel like none of this would happen. None of the other lines really have this problem, yet EPCOT line is down at least once a week, and now has broken down twice and required evacuations.

 

[Goofyernmost]

When people are riding transportation, they are expecting to get somewhere in a timely manner.
Transportation that stops unscheduled and for prolonged periods of time can make people late.
In the case of Disney, that could be late for fast pass rides, dinner reservations, getting back to one's room, etc.
People are going to complain about that.
And getting stuck on a gondolla that literally leave you hanging is something that people are going to complain about.

I don't normally disagree with you, but if you can name one mode of transportation that is not susceptible to delays I would be surprised. I cannot think of one that is less likely then the Gondola's. There are nightmare stories about buses, monorails, trains, planes, boats and cars. Even walking can be sidelined by a turned ankle or some other obstacle. Life is full of barricades.

 

[Kamikaze]

When people are riding transportation, they are expecting to get somewhere in a timely manner.
Transportation that stops unscheduled and for prolonged periods of time can make people late.
In the case of Disney, that could be late for fast pass rides, dinner reservations, getting back to one's room, etc.
People are going to complain about that.
And getting stuck on a gondolla that literally leave you hanging is something that people are going to complain about.

Still not sure what your point was. I said NOTHING about any of that. All I said was that its probably the case that long stoppages are over-reported. You're the one somehow applying it to attractions.

 

[drizgirl]

I don't normally disagree with you, but if you can name one mode of transportation that is not susceptible to delays I would be surprised. I cannot think of one that is less likely then the Gondola's. There are nightmare stories about buses, monorails, trains, planes, boats and cars. Even walking can be sidelined by a turned ankle or some other obstacle. Life is full of barricades.

So the only way to compare is if someone can offer a system with no delays?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, first off, the Riviera Station is the only one without a dedicated ADA loop, and must stop the whole EPCOT/Riviera line to load someone who needs extra assistance.

Define "extra assistance." Wheelchairs and EVC and people with canes/walkers can still have the capability to get on without any slow down or stoppage.

If they do need "extra assistance," the system can be slowed down. Just a reduction to half speed would give everyone in the station twice the amount of time to load. And indeed, the Epcot line, in my experience, often has several slow downs without stopping completely.

It would require a great deal of "extra assistance" to require a complete stoppage at Riviera.