Cosmic Commando
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I'm sure it's the most expensive, which is something, I suppose... in most other metrics, I'd say TL expansion blows it away.
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New Fantasyland-Largest Expansion of the MK, really?
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lazyboy97o
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Also previously used land.
Cosmic Commando
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The town assessor is on his way over!That's a good way to put it. If that is the case, I cleaned out half my attic and I'm considering it an extension.
DManRightHere
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I thought it was speculated the expansion was to increase capacity. Did the expansion actually increase park capacity?
It may have expanded Fantasyland capacity to the extent they reduced bottlenecks in certain areas.
Cesar R M
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bathrooms counts now as "Attractions" for Iger?
No, but if Disney didn't theme them people would complain they were not able to deficate in a highly emersive environment.....
ToTBellHop
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Yes. That's about all it did though.
Sped2424
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What are you talking about? That's not all it did, it gave us the little mermaid which is the ride of this decade hands down, with immersive projection bubbles and disco balls as well as having all the desginated exits marked for my saftey that ride is easily the best thing ever built.
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BoarderPhreak
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I suppose you could spin "expansion" to mean "able to absorb more crowds" - while it's re-purposed land, it'll soak up more folks. Of course it's still spin - but at least somewhat tangible in effect.
For example, 'Belle and the 'Grotto - pack 'em in, I say!
For example, 'Belle and the 'Grotto - pack 'em in, I say!
Since I am 7,834' tall, it just so happens that your picture corresponds to my normal view.
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MOXOMUMD
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"How's the weather up there?"
doctornick
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I'm sure they did. They doubled Dumbo's capacity, replaced SWSA with a much higher capacity ride in TLM, will be adding ride capacity with 7DMT and also added M&G capacity with ETWB, PFH and the Sideshow replacing the ones from Toontown. They also expanded the food capacity (BOG and Gaton's).
Of course, there's indications that MK attendance increased (at a cost to the other parks) which probably makes any ride capacity increase having minimal net effects on guests' wait times.
DManRightHere
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I meant did the expansion allow the park to hold more people. Like before the expansion say they allowed 80,000 in the park before they closed the gates and did not allow any other guests in. After the expansion would they allow 100,000 in the park before closing the gates? I guess I'm just thinking of increasing capacity the wrong way. When I think of a theme parks business version of increase capacity, it would mean get more people in the park instead of give guests more stuff to do.
MOXOMUMD
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When would they top out to say enough is enough?
The Empress Lilly
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A park has several bottlenecks that limit capacity.
For the MK, for example the amount of viewing space for the fireworks, for the parade. Then the number and capacity of rides, people need to get their magic number of rides per day in or they leave unhappy. Transportation to and fro the MK, the monorail and ferry and busses have their limit.
The Fantasyland Repurposing Project solved several particularly stressing operational problems caused by overcrowding: what Iger called, 'the smallest guests stand in the longest lines for the shortest experiences'. That is, M&G's, Dumbo, and FL dark rides (of which Snow is replaced by a higher capacity one). Furthermore, the overcrowding of FL - FL over the years had become Under The Sea Of Twenty Thousand Strollers Land. And the wish to create more m&g's, for an era in which guests no longer return from trips with pictures of the larger world, but of themselves.
But the FRP can not solve the other capacity issues. The MK continues to burst at the seams. Total capacity can not be raised, only better handled in some aspects.
doctornick
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Of course, the best way to "handle" it would be to enhance the other parks and draw more crowds to them such that the MK doesn't become the default park to go to on any extra days. And to have enough stuff to keep people at the other parks late (and to keep them open later!) so that people don't hop over the MK in the evening since it is tends to be the last park open.
Tim Lohr
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This is Tomorrowland from 1978, the Speedway race track was a lot bigger back then, about 1/3 of Birthdayland/Storybook Circus sits on top of what "technically" used to be Tomorrowland, and just recently they reduced the race track a little a little more to make room for the double Dumbo. So in expanding Fantasyland they've a done little reclaiming of 20k land and Birthdayland but Tomorrowland as well, however they did double the amount of stuff there is to do for families with little kids on that land and are now calling it all Fantasyland. I'm not sure who the winner in this debate is though
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jdmdisney99
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Yes but Birthdayland was already there for 20+ years, so they didn't really expand onto it. IMOThis is Tomorrowland from 1978, the Speedway race track was a lot bigger back then, about 1/3 of Birthdayland/Storybook Circus sits on top of what "technically" used to be Tomorrowland, and just recently they reduced the race track a little a little more to make room for the double Dumbo. So in expanding Fantasyland they've a done little reclaiming of 20k land and Birthdayland but Tomorrowland as well, however they did double the amount of stuff there is to do for families with little kids on that land and are now calling it all Fantasyland. I'm not sure who the winner in this debate is though
Funmeister
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What about Frontierland? I would almost be willing to bet the area taken up by Splash and its expansion could rival the new Fantasyland. Remember it was more than just adding the ride. They had to newly develop the area around it.