New Disneyland Parking Garage and Transportation Hub

[Ismael Flores]

SO anyone know how those Orlando bloggers felt about the Anaheim Halloween overlay?
Seems like Anaheim really stepped up their game and hope that it continues and spreads I to the rest of the park as this Halloween idea grows

 

[Phroobar]

SO anyone know how those Orlando bloggers felt about the Anaheim Halloween overlay?
Seems like Anaheim really stepped up their game and hope that it continues and spreads I to the rest of the park as this Halloween idea grows

I think the Orlando bloggers don't know Anaheim exists. They are too busy talking like cartoon characters and dressing like twelve year olds. Heck, most of them seem to think they ARE at Disneyland while at the Magic Kingdom. They are best watched and not heard.

 

[disneylandcm]

I saw earth movers working on the dirt mounds today. Some kind of agreement must have been reached?

 

[TP2000]

I saw earth movers working on the dirt mounds today. Some kind of agreement must have been reached?

Hopefully. Although, this week's Anaheim Planning Commission meeting was cancelled "due to a lack of agenda items". The next meeting is tentatively scheduled for October 2nd. http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/ag_3vers/planning.pdf

 

[NobodyElse]

I saw earth movers working on the dirt mounds today. Some kind of agreement must have been reached?

Unfortunately, I don't believe those two things are necessarily related. (They've been moving dirt around there for a while.)

 

[TP2000]

Unfortunately, I don't believe those two things are necessarily related. (They've been moving dirt around there for a while.)

That dirt has sat there for over a year. After a few months it grows small shrubs and vegetation, and I imagine they have to keep turning over the soil to prevent a full-scale natural habitat from developing with trees, brush, raccoons, possums, coyotes, snakes, bird colonies, etc.

 

[SSG]

Here's the Toy Story expansion; 400 or so spaces:

BLD2017-04077 Toy Story Parking (SP-9) - South/East Corner lot - Site Work: Extend existing parking lot approximately 6.4 acres, new perimeter sound wall of 1,163 ln.ft of cmu wall x 16' high. (12) light poles. new accessible ramp and stairs.

 

[TP2000]

Like many big companies, today is the last day of Disney's corporate Fiscal Year. Tomorrow begins a brand new year, Fiscal Year 2018.

You generally don't wear a funny hat and drink champagne, but if Disney is like any other company... old budgets are put into the archives, new budgets turn on, departmental buyers go on a spending spree on Monday morning, new projects begin, new managers are moved to new teams to start new programs and initiatives, etc., etc.

And Monday's meeting of the Anaheim Planning Commission has been cancelled, again, due to "a lack of agenda items". The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, October 16th. http://local.anaheim.net/docs_agend/ag_3vers/planning.pdf

 

[SSG]

This from MiceChat:

PARKING PROBLEMS
After Disney and the City of Anaheim got into one of the worst political arguments in their 63 year old history together, TDA has their tail between their legs and has quietly gone back to the drawing board on the stalled Eastern Gateway parking and transportation plan. Disney will soon make a last ditch attempt to re-apply for permit approval for the Eastern Gateway, with a reconfigured pedestrian and access plan for the infamous parking project. The clock is ticking with just over 18 months to go before Star Wars Land opens, and it will be a race to the finish to make it in time if Anaheim approves the reconfigured plan. TDA’s revolving door office of the President is to blame here, with each senior executive team going back more than a decade kicking the can down the road on the Resort’s deteriorating and short-sighted parking infrastructure. Now they are paying the heavy price for that failing.

There’s something to be said for walking in the customers shoes and knowing your product personally, but when Disney purposely grants every senior executive complimentary valet parking at the Grand Californian whenever their friends and family visit the Resort, it only made the parking situation worse for the past decade by insulating senior decision makers from their customer’s crummy parking experience (not to mention their employees too). Those same execs are also granted unlimited Fastpasses and complimentary Tour Guides to usher them through exits and to reserved seats for parades and shows, which helps explain why the crowding and line situation in the parks has also gotten so bad.


While TDA will pretend in their dealings with Anaheim that future spending at the Resort depends on the ticket tax moratorium and an approved Eastern Gateway, there are already plenty of big projects lined up and moving towards a start date. That Marvel expansion for DCA is just one, while the re-aligned monorail route that was stalled by the Eastern Gateway debacle will open up even more expansion land for DCA.

 

[flynnibus]

same old talking points from MC - they pretty much copied and pasted that from any number of their previous pieces...

 

[TP2000]

same old talking points from MC - they pretty much copied and pasted that from any number of their previous pieces...

And it bears repeating. With a nice confirmation on the rumor that a revamped Eastern Gateway is about to be rolled out to Anaheim locals and politicians.

 

[shortstop]

And it bears repeating. With a nice confirmation on the rumor that a revamped Eastern Gateway is about to be rolled out to Anaheim locals and politicians.

Are we expecting a better plan from Disney or more of the same cheapness and laziness?

 

[flynnibus]

And it bears repeating

meh.. repeating yourself sometimes is just about trying to convince yourself.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Are we expecting a better plan from Disney or more of the same cheapness and laziness?

Other than better access to pedestrians along Harbor Blvd, which I presume would alter the proposed security bubble plan, I expect little to be different.

 

[Disney Irish]

Other than better access to pedestrians along Harbor Blvd, which I presume would alter the proposed security bubble plan, I expect little to be different.

I too expect not much will be different. Which then will beg the question what all the uproar and delay really was about, other than the Mayor trying to flex his political might.

 

[lazyboy97o]

All of the work may not be in relation to actually drawing the plan. Even then, while Disney will submit/release a plan, that plan is actually derived from the same 3D model that is used to create the perspective renderings. This means that other information that is not visible in the plan image is still in place and designed.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Which then will beg the question what all the uproar and delay really was about,

The "uproar", as usual, mostly came from overly excited online Disney fans.

The main push back appeared to be from local business owners who complained about the lack of resort access points for pedestrians on Harbor Blvd and the lackluster design of the bridge. Instead of disregarding that feedback Disney appears to be retooling the design, something that's not unusual for developers to do following a public review. The issues raised should be relatively easy to solve.

 

[Phroobar]

meh.. repeating yourself sometimes is just about trying to convince yourself.

Repeating yourself and expecting a different outcome is a sign of insanity. I expect nothing less from Disney. Repeating yourself and expecting a different outcome is a sign of insanity. I expect nothing less from Disney.

 

[Jedi Stitch]

I think the poster are spot on about key aspects. One Disney would benefit from people wanting to stay on property for convenience. The people who stay off property have been complaining on a better way to get to the resort, so the "better"way means more walking, that most people already do, for the cheaper rate. What I do know is that Disney had taken out the parking lot, for a second park, and they are still in need of parking to replace the lot. Not only did they need to have parking for one park but for two, as the prices around Disney are soo high, and no one will sell with out taking a first born for the price, Disney has to do what they have to do to stay competitive.

 

[Disney Irish]

The "uproar", as usual, mostly came from overly excited online Disney fans.

The main push back appeared to be from local business owners who complained about the lack of resort access points for pedestrians on Harbor Blvd and the lackluster design of the bridge. Instead of disregarding that feedback Disney appears to be retooling the design, something that's not unusual for developers to do following a public review. The issues raised should be relatively easy to solve.

Actually to be clear the Harbor Businesses didn't give a damn about the lack of pedestrian access to the bridge. What they complained about besides the "look" was how the pedestrians were "in their mind" being rerouted around them. When in all actuality was not the case, even so Disney had already provided suggested solutions back in Dec 2016 City Council meeting but those fell on deaf ears. At the time the Harbor Businesses had dug in their heels and wouldn't hear anything Disney wanted to say. And the City Council just said go back and solve it amongst yourselves. And we are where we are now.

So if the new MiceAge report is to be believed, what really changed? Not likely much as we both said. I have a feeling all that was done is to add the access at the back of the Harbor properties to the walkway to the bridge, at Disney's expense. And then a guarantee that the Harbor entrance, even if smaller and with its own security point, will stay open for x amount of time. All of which were suggested back in Dec 2016.