New Disneyland Parking Garage and Transportation Hub

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Ismael Flores said:
With the proposal that Disney had suggested to allow the hotels to add a secured portal at the back side of the properties you would have walked straight out into the eastern gateway and then just gone thru security and over the bridge.

instead of fighting the hords of guests trying to stay from falling out into the street while waiting on a four foot sidewalk to cross.

Supposedly that is why The past council and the city fire department were excited about the design. It would have lowered the risk factor of guests blocking street vehicles. Right now when crowds are high the guests pile up on the sidewalks with strollers, children and ada vehicles and then wait for the cross light. The crowds get so big that some wait on street. Once the signal turns green to cross there are so many guests that it is impossible to stay within the cross area. Guests start crossing from any point of the sidewalk they are on and sometimes cut between stopped cars.
Worst thing is when light turns green for cars and there are still hords of guests still on street causing cars to back up and ventilation creating gridlocks.

The whole resortvarea desperately needs crowd control like what Disney and past city council had. Reviewed even if it meant removing some crosswalks and adding bridges along Katella and harbor connections. There has been many near misses of guests almost being hit. As the crowds grow with the bigger convention center and bigger theme park entertainment it is just a matter of their being an accident.

Let's add to that the instability of crazy people out there that want to cause harm. How easy would it be for someone to target dozens of families crossing the streets and sidewalks by speeding a car thru one of the most recognizable tourist locations in the world.
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So build a tunnel. Or a nicer bridge. Make the route directly accessible from Harbor. How about moving sidewalks or dropping the roadway below grade as others have suggested?

Or better yet go big and construct a peoplemover system connecting key points around Anaheim with points inside DLR.

The point I'm trying to make is that Disney presented the most basic solution for getting guests from their entry portal to the Esplanade without any concern for asthetics and convenience. They can do better and hopefully the final plan will be.
 
lazyboy97o

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nevol said:
They have no obligation to make their resort feel urban; it is unavoidably urban and surrounded by Anaheim. The eastern gateway wont change that. people will still be exiting the 5 into anaheim, getting into a parking garage or our of one to enter a security gateway framed on all sides by motels. Literally as you enter Disneyland Resort, rather than being surrounded by disneyland, you'd now be in the back alley of motels. The very fact that DLR is located in this dense commercial area, an area that it drives much of the traffic for, is also the reason that it is difficult to embrace that urbanism/urban design. Heading north on harbor from the convention center, the entire walk on your lefthand side, save for 2 motels, is DCA. There can be no commercial rhythm over there to create walkability. The businesses on the other side are dense, yes, but do they create a street wall with setbacks? No. There is no way with Disneyland there that they can create an immersive street scale a la main street or Michigan Avenue in Chicago, as a real-world example.
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The Disneyland Resort is hardly the first mega block in an urban context. You don't improve a less than ideal urban environment by just giving up and making it worse.
 
nevol

nevol

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lazyboy97o said:
The Disneyland Resort is hardly the first mega block in an urban context. You don't improve a less than ideal urban environment by just giving up and making it worse.
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I don't know what you are expecting from them. They did a street/landscape master plan, and they could enforce an urban design guideline master plan in the district that nobody right now would be in compliance with. Disney's property line is more like Hudson Yards in NYC, where the trains enter Penn Station. And unlike Hudson Yards, they can't and won't build over it by leasing the airspace above.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Ok, just spitballing bad ideas here...

But what if Disney built an off-site parking lot (say, near Angels Stadium) specifically for AP's and shuttled them in?
In obvious addition to adding more parking on-site.
 
TiggerDad

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HatboxGhostbuster said:
Ok, just spitballing bad ideas here...

But what if Disney built an off-site parking lot (say, near Angels Stadium) specifically for AP's and shuttled them in?
In obvious addition to adding more parking on-site.
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Or if you really wanted to drive away the AP's, you could have them park at Angels Stadium and then just let them tour around inside of Angels Stadium instead of letting them actually go to Disneyland. That would save you the trouble of shuttling them to the park.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TiggerDad said:
Or if you really wanted to drive away the AP's, you could have them park at Angels Stadium and then just let them tour around inside of Angels Stadium instead of letting them actually go to Disneyland. That would save you the trouble of shuttling them to the park.
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Phroobar

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TiggerDad said:
Or if you really wanted to drive away the AP's, you could have them park at Angels Stadium and then just let them tour around inside of Angels Stadium instead of letting them actually go to Disneyland. That would save you the trouble of shuttling them to the park.
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I remember a few years ago going on a special tour of Angels Stadium. We got to go down on the field and even meet some players and throw the ball around.
 
JoFu

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Curious Constance said:
I think they should make all APs bike to the park. I also think they should only allow all APs to ride one ride per trip. They also cannot get in any food or bathroom lines more than one time per trip to the park. They should all be forced to wear bright neon green t-shirts so I can glare at them when I walk by.
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...then introduce the non-pariah upgrade, which gives you full privileges including blending privileges.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Curious Constance said:
I think they should make all APs bike to the park. I also think they should only allow all APs to ride one ride per trip. They also cannot get in any food or bathroom lines more than one time per trip to the park. They should all be forced to wear bright neon green t-shirts so I can glare at them when I walk by.
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FigmentFreak

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Kira Nerys said:
Disney should just be allowed to monopolize the surrounding area.

While they're adding parking spaces to the Toy Story lot, which doesn't look anything like the Toy Story series of films, is surrounded by homelessness and prostitution and which guests are frequently redirected to and arrive at after waiting in traffic for an hour or more, maybe they could consider a porta potty?
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So Disney should dress the prostitutes and homeless as Toy Story characters.
 
FigmentFreak

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SSG said:
Don't be silly.

The prostitutes will be Disney Princesses.
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I was trying to stay with the parking lot Toy Story Theme, but since princesses don't belong in Toy Story, maybe the prostitutes could be all the not so talked about barbies, you know strung out on drugs barbie, depressed divorcee barbie, alcoholic barbie, etc.
 

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