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[Dads 2 Boys]

Opened without it, but quickly change positions when the visitors basically revolted when they couldn't get wine with their meals.

Personally I think it's bullhonkey that you can't get wine and beer in MK. I understand the hard stuff, but really, it's 2012. Time to change the rules.

What does being 2012 have to do with allowing alcohol? When it's such a concern (by people) that they can't get alcohol in MK, what does that say? Way too many people think they can handle their alcohol when they can't. It's bad enough to have the idiots (and the tour groups) in the parks as it is, but to add drunken fools is a whole different thing. Walk around Epcot during the F&W Festival in the evening.

There is a continuing growth of alcohol abuse in this country especially among younger people. Change the rules??? I don't think so.

And wanting a beer while on vacation isn't the issue IMO, it's the "clamoring" about how they don't sell it, etc...

 

[Dads 2 Boys]

I really truly don't understand why they don't serve alcohol in the Magic Kingdom. Well, I do "understand", but I don't understand.

I get that back in the day Walt wanted to maintain a strict family atmosphere in his parks, but now fast-forward to our times when there is more than one park, why do they serve alcohol in any of the parks? Are they implying it's important to maintain a family atmosphere in one park but not the others? I get that the Magic Kingdom is the centerpiece of the whole Disney image in WDW, but I think it's asinine to have a dry policy in one park and not in the others. I'm sure there's been many a person that has been wasted drinking around World Showcase, but I can't remember seeing anyone truly sloshed when in Disney. With the prices they charge for drinks, I don't think the average person can afford to. But I enjoy having a beer/drink or two while in the parks, as I'm sure many others do.

I just think this is an age-old policy that harkens back to a different era, and if it was strictly maintained in all the parks to truly stand out from everything in our time and be family friendly, then ok, I can see it. But I seriously can't understand the one park thing, even if it is the park most meant for children. There are always kids in the other three parks. Are they going to be any less affected seeing someone drunk riding Nemo, seeing Playhouse Disney, or walking around Camp Minnie-Mickey than they would if someone was drunk by Dumbo? There's really no difference, is there?

Just like the Disney Look thing was altered recently, (which I neither agree or disagree with) I think it's time to change the rules on this one.

I think some of the difference in opinion can be attributed to where people live and the drinking habits of the community they are from. I'm not saying all Bostonians drink everyday of the week to excess but alcohol consumption is Boston is higher compared to many other parts of the country.

Your opinion about having alcohol in MK will differ from someone from another part of the country. If beer is not a part of where your from, then those people are definitely going to think it's not necessary.

 

[donvincenzo]

I think some of the difference in opinion can be attributed to where people live and the drinking habits of the community they are from. I'm not saying all Bostonians drink everyday of the week to excess but alcohol consumption is Boston is higher compared to many other parts of the country.

Your opinion about having alcohol in MK will differ from someone from another part of the country. If beer is not a part of where your from, then those people are definitely going to think it's not necessary.

Considering we are the home of the best major brand of domestic beer available, that may be fair to say that we like our beer. However, I think you may be missing my point.

I'm not clamoring for alcohol in MK. I obviously still go to the park every trip and enjoy it. I don't "need" alcohol to be served there. What I don't get is the reasoning on not serving and the contradiction I think they present. I understand wanting to maintain a family atmosphere, but again, do they not care about a family atmosphere at the other parks? We're not talking about drinking at the old Pleasure Island at 2 am. You can be watching the daytime parades at DHS or DAK with a beer in hand, surrounded by children. Why is that ok, but not so in MK?

Even though I'd like to be able to have a beer in the Magic Kingdom, like I said, my enjoyment of it as a park is not ruined by the not-serving of alcohol. If they truly wanted to maintain a family atmosphere property wide and made all the parks dry, I'd understand it (although World Showcase truly would lose something, lol). I can have a beer or a drink at my hotel when I'm done in the parks, I don't care. I kinda do think it should be all or nothing, though, as far as the four parks. I just don't see why it's ok in three parks, but not in the other. :shrug:

 

[Maerj]

I think it's because some people live more alcohol-centric lives than others. To some, it's odd that people feel they need a drink everywhere they visit. To others, it's a natural part of daily life.

Personally, I'm just fine with how it is. If someone can't go to one theme park that doesn't serve and it greatly impacts their trip, then that's a personal issue they need to deal with. It's nice to not have smelly beer stands at least one place.

Basically, one side says, "Why can't we have it?" and the other says, "Why do you feel you need it?"

/shrug

I think the world will survive either way, but I don't think one dry park is going to really impact the vacation of any normal person.

I think that this about sums it up, good job. Besides, you can go to Downtown, the other parks and your resort hotel and get alcohol.

 

[The Disney Kid]

I couldn't help but notice that most of the responses are coming from the U.S.. NEWSFLASH: Hey y'all it's FRANCE! It's like this whole other country, with a whole other culture. Drinking isn't looked down on there like it sometimes is here. :veryconfu

 

[Annielkd]

I'm going to weigh in here myself. I don't drink... I'm not even a social drinker. I don't like it, hate the smell, and think it causes people to be annoying. However, I think if they are going to have it at all the other parks, there is no reason not to have it at Magic Kingdom. To be honest, I never knew they didn't serve it. I've gone to all the parks many times. I've hardly ever seen anyone looking overly intoxicated, even though I know people drink around the world at Epcot. (There are a few teenagers looking way too young to drink that seem intoxicated... but, never noticed an adult). Do I think they should change it... I don't think they should have to go through the expense to. Can they build something there that allows alcohol... sure, why not. Keeping something off limits just makes people want it more.

 

[J03Y]

i personally think that Magic Kingdom at least shouldn't have alcohol, i mean MK is such a pure place. i feel like there would be people who would take it too far and ruin the magic for everyone.

i mean Epcot is different, and i wouldn't mind it if they did it for MGM. but MK... just no... but whatever, i personally wouldn't fuss about it if they did. and you all have your opinions

 

[JLW11Hi]

I'm going to weigh in here myself. I don't drink... I'm not even a social drinker. I don't like it, hate the smell, and think it causes people to be annoying. However, I think if they are going to have it at all the other parks, there is no reason not to have it at Magic Kingdom. To be honest, I never knew they didn't serve it. I've gone to all the parks many times. I've hardly ever seen anyone looking overly intoxicated, even though I know people drink around the world at Epcot. (There are a few teenagers looking way too young to drink that seem intoxicated... but, never noticed an adult). Do I think they should change it... I don't think they should have to go through the expense to. Can they build something there that allows alcohol... sure, why not. Keeping something off limits just makes people want it more.

I am in the exact opposite opinion.

I do drink, but I like the fact that they keep alcohol out of the Magic Kingdom. It is the park that is most geared towards children and their families, and it is unnecessary. You have Epcot, Studios, Animal Kingdom, Downtown Disney, the water parks, and the resorts to get an alcoholic drink if you want one.

 

[bethymouse]

Tradition...

Keep tradition @ the MK.:goodnevil
I guess being a "Tavern" that there could/should be beer served at least.:shrug:
I don't know. I don't drink, but I can understand everyone's P.O.V.
It wouldn't bother me if MK sold beer in a "tavern". It would be neat to have it served like Gaston would drink it ( draft only, no bottled). Maybe a "french" beer or something?:shrug:
Have Gaston and Lefue perform their song.
Oh well, just my humble opinion...:wave:

 

[danlb_2000]

Keep tradition @ the MK.:goodnevil
I guess being a "Tavern" that there could/should be beer served at least.:shrug:
I don't know. I don't drink, but I can understand everyone's P.O.V.
It wouldn't bother me if MK sold beer in a "tavern". It would be neat to have it served like Gaston would drink it ( draft only, no bottled). Maybe a "french" beer or something?:shrug:
Have Gaston and Lefue perform their song.
Oh well, just my humble opinion...:wave:

Having Tavern in the name is really irrelevant to the discussion since Liberty Tree Tavern has been in Magic Kingdom for years and never served alcohol.

One issue with changing things now would be one of public perception. If MK started serving alcohol you can be sure the media would be all over it, likely with a less then positive spin which could really hurt Disney.

Dan

 

[bethymouse]

I understand...

Having Tavern in the name is really irrelevant to the discussion since Liberty Tree Tavern has been in Magic Kingdom for years and never served alcohol.

One issue with changing things now would be one of public perception. If MK started serving alcohol you can be sure the media would be all over it, likely with a less then positive spin which could really hurt Disney.

Dan

Yep- Liberty Tree Tavern. Oh yes. Forgot about that one.

I remember @ my college York College of Pa., our lounge was called THE PUB.
Well, it stayed that name until a new dean deemed it inappropriate (1991) ( no alcolhol of course.):lol:
So the new name was voted on and it became THE SPART'S DEN (mascot-Spartans).:ROFLOL:
Bottom line I guess is that names can be deceiving, just as looks.:goodnevil

So, I understand the no alcohol thing @ MK. I wouldn't want any more bad press on my favorite place in the world!

 

[HumblePirate]

I think one reason why it's not served is that the MK is pretty sacred in terms of it's really the park that Walt built (not literally). I'm guessing at some point it'll change, but I don't think it'll be too soon. The other parks don't have that personal Walt touch, so I think they can deviate from the no alcohol rule.

 

[Gabe1]

I am in the exact opposite opinion.

I do drink, but I like the fact that they keep alcohol out of the Magic Kingdom. It is the park that is most geared towards children and their families, and it is unnecessary. You have Epcot, Studios, Animal Kingdom, Downtown Disney, the water parks, and the resorts to get an alcoholic drink if you want one.

And this is where I'll chime in. I'm known to have a drink in the parks in the evening, I couldn't drink during the day with the heat. But having family members in the Parks and Rec field, the dumbest place to sell liquor is a water park and yet Disney does. There are so many things that can go wrong being a tad tipsy in a water park. So if it is OK there, along with the risk managers, with all the kids about, so often separated from their families, I fail to see the issue with liquor in the MK. Frankly, after seeing some of the parents who have lost their patience and flip out, wonder if a glass of wine wouldn't calm their nerves down a bit and make folks a little less snarky.

 

[Annielkd]

And this is where I'll chime in. I'm known to have a drink in the parks in the evening, I couldn't drink during the day with the heat. But having family members in the Parks and Rec field, the dumbest place to sell liquor is a water park and yet Disney does. There are so many things that can go wrong being a tad tipsy in a water park. So if it is OK there, along with the risk managers, with all the kids about, so often separated from their families, I fail to see the issue with liquor in the MK. Frankly, after seeing some of the parents who have lost their patience and flip out, wonder if a glass of wine wouldn't calm their nerves down a bit and make folks a little less snarky.

Good Point! At Epcot, I actually go and get my husband a beer. It's enough to help him relax and not mind the crowds. I'm pretty sure he would appreciate it at MK as well. Maybe THAT'S why we never go there at night???

 

[HouCuseChickie]

I like a nice drink or a beer, but I really don't need it in MK. I'm just fine w/o it there and kind of appreciate the park being dry; however, I would agree that it would nice to see Gaston's offer some kind non-alcoholic novelty drink on par with the sugary butter beer offered at WWoHP. I realize DLP offers alcohol in the park, but just b/c this section of FLE depicts France doesn't mean it actually is France. If I really have to drink in France while at WDW I can head to the WS.

All in all- having watched BatB 3x within the last 2 days and looked at the pictures and renderings while I watched- what I've seen so far is close enough to make me happy; however, I'd be very disappointed if the west wing and library were scrapped. I know it sounds like the tales with Belle might take up the library, but I recall the earlier materials on BoG speaking of 3 different dining rooms. The only upside- if you want to call it that- is that people wouldn't be waiting as long to sit in the dining room of their choice. i.e. if the west wing were an option and is smaller- you wouldn't have 10 parties willing to wait an hour or more to sit there.

Still excited for it to open and hoping some of it is open by the time we travel.

 

[Victor Kelly]

I've seen enough of the drunken idiots at the Food and Wine festival to last me a lifetime

MK....no, everywhere else is fine with me.

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

I think it's because some people live more alcohol-centric lives than others. To some, it's odd that people feel they need a drink everywhere they visit. To others, it's a natural part of daily life.

Personally, I'm just fine with how it is. If someone can't go to one theme park that doesn't serve and it greatly impacts their trip, then that's a personal issue they need to deal with. It's nice to not have smelly beer stands at least one place.

Basically, one side says, "Why can't we have it?" and the other says, "Why do you feel you need it?"

/shrug

I think the world will survive either way, but I don't think one dry park is going to really impact the vacation of any normal person.

This.

 

[cookiee_munster]

folks, there's already another "no alcohol at Magic Kingdom" bla bla thread over on the Original Gastons Tavern thread.

please don't fill this thread up with the same alcohol yay or nay talk.

 

[Tim Lohr]

folks, there's already another "no alcohol at Magic Kingdom" bla bla thread over on the Original Gastons Tavern thread.

please don't fill this thread up with the same alcohol yay or nay talk.

YAAAA!!!!! :sohappy:

 

[FettFan]

Beer at Gaston's.

How about just serving cream soda in chilled frosty mugs?

It looks like beer but is much more family friendly.