New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Ayla]

I have always wondered why there isn’t a larger handicap accessible bathroom required on planes. There are definitely people out there who need it.

Because it would have to be at the front of the plane and for most airlines, that is where First Class is. Peons are not allowed to use the FC bathrooms.

 

[jennab55]

I would assume space. Same with busses.

Oh most likely why, but how do they get away with it? You think in this day and age where things are more accessible it would change.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Oh most likely why, but how do they get away with it? You think in this day and age where things are more accessible it would change.

Airlines have gotten away with way too much regarding ADA issues - I’m not sure why.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

They do. They’re better than other theme parks.

not really.


Simply, if the wait for Rise was 15minutes, people wouldn't pay $25 to ride it. Disney is doing everything they can to engineer long queues, and charging double for daily park entry.

Miserable standby waits = more $ for WDW.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

New member to the forums, so I do apologise if this has been queried before but I am currently feeling a lot of anxiety and stress over my upcoming trip.

Unfortunately, paying for LL is probably your best option, especially for MK and HS. Your other option is to skip some attractions, especially some of the individually priced attractions.

It will also be helpful if you can use peripheral park hours, both the early morning and the evening park hours with maybe an afternoon break/nap to make it work.

Most of us on this forum try to zig when the crowd zags. Reading threads on the topic of avoiding crowds will help give you some strategies. A simple one is to eat meals at off-times, especially lunch if possible.

Another option is to spend more of your time doing the things that do not get a long wait.

 

[NotTheOne]

Airlines have gotten away with way too much regarding ADA issues - I’m not sure why.

Probably because outside of employment issues, airlines aren't covered by the ADA. There is an act that covers them, (Air Accessibility or something like that), but no idea why there wouldn't be a requirement for larger restrooms on at least some planes.

 

[NotTheOne]

Here's a good article from last year that I just found re: accessible restrooms on planes:

Airlines Will Be Required to Make Bathrooms More Accessible

Single-aisle planes will face new rules from the U.S. Department of Transportation—but they won’t go into effect for more than a decade

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Its miraculous how all these what if issues practically never happen on rides or in LL que’s etc

I think most conditions have an exponentially increasing risk.

In a 10 minute line (or ride) the risk of an issue is very low, say 5%.

In a 20 minute line it’s still relatively low, but doubles to say a 10% chance of an issue.

By 30 minutes you’re now doubled again to a 20% risk, at 40 minutes it’s a 40% risk, at 50 minutes you’re now at 80% risk, at an hour it’s essentially guaranteed an issue will occur.

There’s a risk in even the shortest line (or ride) but it’s very unlikely, it become’s far more likely as more time in that situation occurs.

 

[jennab55]

Here's a good article from last year that I just found re: accessible restrooms on planes:

Airlines Will Be Required to Make Bathrooms More Accessible

Single-aisle planes will face new rules from the U.S. Department of Transportation—but they won’t go into effect for more than a decade

www.smithsonianmag.com

Ooof. I mean at least it’s movement, but over a decade

 

[Splash4eva]

I think most conditions have an exponentially increasing risk.

In a 10 minute line (or ride) the risk of an issue is very low, say 5%.

In a 20 minute line it’s still relatively low, but doubles to say a 10% chance of an issue.

By 30 minutes you’re now doubled again to a 20% risk, at 40 minutes it’s a 40% risk, at 50 minutes you’re now at 80% risk, at an hour it’s essentially guaranteed an issue will occur.

There’s a risk in even the shortest line (or ride) but it’s very unlikely, it become’s far more likely as more time in that situation occurs.

I dont even know how to reply to these completely made up “stats”

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Airlines have gotten away with way too much regarding ADA issues - I’m not sure why.

Airlines are not governed by the ADA.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Airlines are not governed by the ADA.

That’s why I said “ADA issues” clearly it’s legal, cause they are flying. But the ADA issues clearly exist on Airlines in America.

 

[Chi84]

That’s why I said “ADA issues” clearly it’s legal, cause they are flying. But the ADA issues clearly exist on Airlines in America.

Maybe it’s better to just say disability issues to avoid confusion. The ADA is limited in its application.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I dont even know how to reply to these completely made up “stats”

They aren’t stats, they are an example.

To put it in more relatable terms… If you get in a 30 minute line it’s very unlikely you’ll have to leave to use the restroom, for arguments sake maybe a 5% chance, double that to an hour and it becomes a little more likely put probably still rare, maybe 10%, add another half an hour to 1.5 hours and there’s a decent chance (20%) you’ll need the restroom, add another half hour to 2 hours and nearing half the people will likely need to step out to use the bathroom (40%), make it 2.5 hour and most people will likely need to step out to use the restroom, make it 3 hours and nearly everyone will need to step out of line to use the restroom at some point.

Those aren’t stats, just common sense examples.

The difference with disabilities is they often compound faster, instead of every half hour I randomly chose 10 minute increments for my example, depending on the disability it could be 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, etc.

The point is the same though, you were questioning why people that can wait in a short line can’t wait in a long line, that’s like me questioning how you can wait in a 30 minute line without needing to use the restroom but you can’t wait in a 3 hour line without needing the restroom, the question makes no sense. As more time goes by you become exponentially more likely to need a restroom.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Maybe it’s better to just say disability issues to avoid confusion. The ADA is limited in its application.

Just typing the letters ADA on this thread seems to upset some people for some reason. It’s quite curious.

 

[Chi84]

Just typing the letters ADA on this thread seems to upset some people for some reason. It’s quite curious.

I don’t think they’re upset, but the ADA is a specific law. If you ask why it hasn’t affected airlines, the answer is it doesn’t apply.

All I’m suggesting is that it’s better to use a more general term like disability access.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If you ask why it hasn’t affected airlines, the answer is it doesn’t apply.

I know it doesn’t apply, but by definition it should.

“Employers, state and local governments, businesses that are open to the public, commercial facilities, transportation providers, and telecommunication companies all have to follow the requirements of the ADA.”

 

[CampbellzSoup]

The poster already said this wouldn't work, as they sometimes need their partner's assistance in the restroom.

Ok so if you get denied then what?

 

[Splash4eva]

They aren’t stats, they are an example.

To put it in more relatable terms… If you get in a 30 minute line it’s very unlikely you’ll have to leave to use the restroom, for arguments sake maybe a 5% chance, double that to an hour and it becomes a little more likely put probably still rare, maybe 10%, add another half an hour to 1.5 hours and there’s a decent chance (20%) you’ll need the restroom, add another half hour to 2 hours and nearing half the people will likely need to step out to use the bathroom (40%), make it 2.5 hour and most people will likely need to step out to use the restroom, make it 3 hours and nearly everyone will need to step out of line to use the restroom at some point.

Those aren’t stats, just common sense examples.

The difference with disabilities is they often compound faster, instead of every half hour I randomly chose 10 minute increments for my example, depending on the disability it could be 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, etc.

The point is the same though, you were questioning why people that can wait in a short line can’t wait in a long line, that’s like me questioning why you can hold your bladder for 30 minutes but not 3 hours, the question makes no sense.

You are literally making ALL of this up! You have absolutely ZERO factual basis for stating any of this. Literally NONE.

And if anything you were only proving my point. People have to wait longer when leaving the parks and using Disney busses. Yet i haven't heard of any stories where people were pooping themselves or having panic attacks that were unbearable… so again it just makes you scratch your head and wonder.

 

[Chi84]

I know it doesn’t apply, but by definition it should.

“Employers, state and local governments, businesses that are open to the public, commercial facilities, transportation providers, and telecommunication companies all have to follow the requirements of the ADA.”

What are you quoting?