Those are the actual numbers. The “DAS user” is the person entitled to the service. The others with that person would otherwise be standing in line or paying for access - they are not independently entitled to the service.
Reduction of party size & pre booked rides frees up slots. So does eliminating re rides. They simply are trying to fix this by telling most people no more DAS sell more Genie & thats that. Wait times are not magically disappearing
Yes, but I think it creates a false impression of DAS users to say that “8% take up 70%”. If it’s actually “30-50% of guests with DAS parties take up 70% of capacity on some popular rides”, I think that’s what should be stated. But, again, maybe I’m overthinking it.
That‘s the point I was originally making, this isn’t a small number of people, it’s roughly 1/3 of all park guests.
Again it's not about that. It's about Disney having better data for Genie+ and being able setup better availability for Genie+ users. Standby will always be long.
The one thing is that if they are dealing with less unplanned capacity in the LL, then it won't get backed up as much and therefore the stand by line would move more smoothly.
Yeah, no. This is just pulling numbers out of the air and ridiculousness. First, we have insiders in this thread posting that 8 percent of users in the park have DAS. From that you are extrapolating and pulling out of thin air that this means that those 8 percent plus their average party size is 32-40 percent. You are basing that on nothing but your subjective beliefs about the average party size of a DAS user.
I agree, from an operational standpoint it’s a massive change, from a guest standpoint I don’t think we’re going to see a big difference though.
It’s not really out of thin air…. If 8% have DAS and they all can have up to 5 guests then we know those who are using DAS is more than 8%. An average somewhat makes sense there. What number do you think it is?
No it doesn’t. I have no idea what number it is because insiders haven’t posted it. You’re just pulling numbers out of thin air based on your subjective feelings. What I do know, because insiders have posted it here, and Testa’s counts support it, is that 8 percent of park users actually have DAS, and they are using up to 75 percent of LL capacity at the most popular attractions, which in turn translates to up to 71 percent of overall capacity at those attractions.
You never said “at the most popular attractions”, that’s completely moving the bar… but we can look at that also… take out the 4 you listed and we’ve still got Space, HM, and Pirates, just those 3 rides equals 90,000 rides a day, 70% of that is 63,000… is it your argument that 4,720 people are going on those 3 rides 63,000 times?
This thread is hundreds of pages long. It has always been “at the most popular attractions” dating back to when those stats were first posted. Nobody thinks that DAS users are using up the capacity of Carousel of Progress, come on now…. For Pete’s sake that ride doesn’t even operate at full capacity during peak times.
One leads to the other
Well if they’re moving to the standby line, they’re no longer in 2 lines at once.
They won't significantly increase G+ usage as they only have so much capacity. What will most likely happen is they will have a better idea of how capacity they have per hour and they won't have a bunch of DAS that's not accounted for each hour to deal with.
Add ability alongside patience and I agree, the competition for Genie and LL is about to skyrocket, whether due to a lack of ability or a lack of patience most of these people are now going to be opening their wallet to avoid the standby.
Then they should build the capacity to suit that, instead of increasing the struggles of people who have extra needs
While so agree it's needed, we also know it's not changing any time soon. To be fair DAS went over and above what's required for those with disabilities.Then they should build the capacity to suit that, instead of increasing the struggles of people who have extra needs
