I kinda get you here
Oh yeah, this definitely isn’t a strictly legal decision. They’re eliminating DAS for those with disabilities that primarily (although not exclusively) impact older adults while making sure that those with disabilities that can appear in children (although last throughout life) are still eligible. Prioritizing children certainly makes sense from a PR perspective and candidly, I think that’s a good thing anyway. Those with the disabilities that are not included in DAS can still use the return to line pass.
You are entitled to your opinion as to what does not qualify as a disability.
Im truly curious how they plan on making this leave the line work when someone really needs to go to the bathroom as one user already discussed and others who truly cant stand in line that long are gonna be given i dk “breaks”. When you have multiple people at same time needing that same accomadation its going to be a nightmare getting them out and getting them back in. The root cause is still not being fixed pre books need to go. Rerides need to be addressed and yes this is the tricky area agreed. The delayed booking of another ride will ease some pain as well. Ultimately tho i dk what this is really gonna do when it comes to wait times. Whats funny is this. We been hearing for how long wait times are “inflated” yet now they are accurate. Genie + is far from perfect but you can easily get a solid days worth of selection with any sort of intelligence. Ive been during Thanksgiving week twice which is usually a busy week and also there end of August into Labor day and had great success granted the summer trip crowds were definitely less. Again there will never be any real right answer but until disney addresses the real issues none of this changes and again imo this will free up some more LL for rides which will be scooped up by others and will now have more people purchasing it imo.
I never said those categories weren’t disabilities. To the contrary, they all constitute a form of disability.
Unfortunately again not all disabilities are the same. Some may need two people to assist with a transfer to the ride
Pre-books go away as of 5/20 based on the language. They only specify them for now through May 19.
Universal switched to the IBCCES system a little while ago. It’s an independent organization that requires medical verification of your disability. Based upon that Universal will then accommodate you with several different options which range from all sorts of things like access to the express pass lines after a return time wait like DAS to (rarely) a true line-skip system after a return time wait for those who can’t handle the EP lines.
They don’t
That is what I was getting from this as well. I did see something about the possibility in some rare cases though so... again this is a mess we aren't going to know till they start the new system
If all you care about is the speed that the line moves and it doesn’t matter if families get to sit together than Disney shouldn’t let any groups ride together but force them to fill all available seats.
I get all of that but a prime example is the solo traveler who already has stated a get out if line would do nothing for his condition if denied. Im sure he is not the only one. Seems to me the issue is not DAS users but the part size rerides & pre books fix that which they did not 2 of those they could have legally done with no issues at all
That's what I thought if that is the only difference isn't what this new Disney system basically do the same thing but without the need for documentation. I don't blame Disney for doing everything but what is being tested in court. I won't be surprised if IBCCES is allowed to be used Disney will jump on it. I am also curious if Disney basically did the same if the problems would solved or is it beyond the system? Again trying to learn and wrap my head around all this.
I was curious how they would going forward i didnt see anything definitive. So they are in the right direction
I am skeptical of the solo travelers who suffer from physical (versus neurological) impairments who are already stating a return to line pass will definitely do nothing for them without seeing what that return to line pass actually looks like. There is a difference between a person who cannot wait in a line due to emotional/neurological disabilities and those who cannot wait in a line because they may need to frequently leave to go to the bathroom, take a break, etc. The latter might prefer to get the classic DAS line-skip, but they can’t, because that is sucking up too much capacity from everyone else. When GAC changed to DAS there was a ton of similar sentiments and outrage from the former GAC users and that ended up working out fine for basically all of them.
