News New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[jaklgreen]

I honestly think there is a pretty simple way Disney could stop a ton of the cheating...

Disney 100% follows these Facebook groups and reads threads like these. They pretty easily can target a few high profile cheaters. Simply get irrefutable proof they are lying, such as video evidence that a couple split up right before a ride and claimed they were traveling solo to get this advantage. After the ride, permanently ban the couple from WDW. Do this a dozen times and a lot of people won't risk lying.

Put a team of 10 security people on it for a month and watch the abuse drop.

They can just track you with your magic band. I think that would be easier.

 

[jaklgreen]

Or - maybe it's not nearly as bad as you think.

Never heard of someone not giving time off back if you don't actually go... I hope the new planning windows help your situation.

My point was that a lot of time and work goes into planning a trip. It is not like you can just completely switch gears and go somewhere else last minute without planning anything. People still want to be able to take their vacations. Honestly, I have been more wanting to just go on the cruise than go back to WDW and that makes me sad.
I have been going pretty much at least once a year since 1995, excluding those couple of years when my babies were born and then the year of covid. I could have bought a house for what I have spent at Disney. WDW has always been my happy place but I am just not feeling it anymore and it is disheartening.

 

[jaklgreen]

Or - maybe it's not nearly as bad as you think.

Never heard of someone not giving time off back if you don't actually go... I hope the new planning windows help your situation.

That is not what I am saying. I am saying that most theme parks are pretty clear on their procedures. They don't just say "trust me bro" like Disney is doing.

 

[Jrb1979]

They can just track you with your magic band. I think that would be easier.

I would add anyone that uses the alternative options, that once you scan into an attraction you have to wait til whatever the standby wait is.

Example say to use it for Rise and the standby is 90 minutes, you then can't ride anything til those 90 minutes are up.

 

[jaklgreen]

I mean there are 3 ways to reduce cheaters.

1) Make it harder to get the accommodation
2) Make the accommodation less desirable
3) Make an effort to catch cheaters and ban them

They went with 1 and 2

Or, Disney can stop being so greedy and go back to the free fastpass system. Yeah, they make less money, but everyone was a lot happier then. And everyone felt like they were getting a bit more value out of their visits.

 

[Jrb1979]

That is not what I am saying. I am saying that most theme parks are pretty clear on their procedures. They don't just say "trust me bro" like Disney is doing.

They have told you what the options are. The have return to queue and you wait outside the queue til your party gets to the merge spot.

 

[jaklgreen]

I would add anyone that uses the alternative options, that once you scan into an attraction you have to wait til whatever the standby wait is.

Example say to use it for Rise and the standby is 90 minutes, you then can't ride anything til those 90 minutes are up.

That has been brought up numerous times. I don't think that most people have an issue with that. I sure don't. It was Disney that was encouraging people to do so. Disney really does need to start bringing back more street entertainment to keep guests out of the queues. This mess is entirely Disney's doing. They take away other forms of entertainment, and then charge for what used to be free. Disney is their own worst enemy in this instance.

 

[jaklgreen]

They have told you what the options are. The have return to queue and you wait outside the queue til your party gets to the merge spot.

And yet there are how many reports and vlogs showing that this is not consistent? And Disney says to talk to the cast member about what "might" be given. And let's face it, you have ALWAYS been able to leave the line if you needed to and make your way back to your family. That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

 

[Purduevian]

Or, Disney can stop being so greedy and go back to the free fastpass system. Yeah, they make less money, but everyone was a lot happier then. And everyone felt like they were getting a bit more value out of their visits.

Fast pass/ Genie plus / Lightning lane should NOT be part of the DAS discussion.

I understand that some people that need accommodations are able to "get by" with these (free or not) but they are not a standby replacement. Disability accommodations are a substitute for Standby

 

[jennab55]

Or, Disney can stop being so greedy and go back to the free fastpass system. Yeah, they make less money, but everyone was a lot happier then. And everyone felt like they were getting a bit more value out of their visits.

This is never going to happen. Also, if FP worked for people then LLMP will as well. The issue is they don’t want to pay for it.

 

[flynnibus]

That is not what I am saying. I am saying that most theme parks are pretty clear on their procedures. They don't just say "trust me bro" like Disney is doing.

At a point it becomes a matter of taking some self-responsibility to clear something up. Armchairing it doesn't really do anything so eventually it will come to 'if its important to you, do something about it'

 

[Angel Ariel]

That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

Disability accommodations don't have to be "special" to be accommodations. Curb cuts are accommodations - now they're normal and daily life to everyone.

 

[Jrb1979]

That has been brought up numerous times. I don't think that most people have an issue with that. I sure don't. It was Disney that was encouraging people to do so. Disney really does need to start bringing back more street entertainment to keep guests out of the queues. This mess is entirely Disney's doing. They take away other forms of entertainment, and then charge for what used to be free. Disney is their own worst enemy in this instance.

I'm not talking DAS in this instance. I'm talking about those who don't qualify for DAS and have been splitting up parties to use these alternatives as its similar to LLMP without paying for it.

And yet there are how many reports and vlogs showing that this is not consistent? And Disney says to talk to the cast member about what "might" be given. And let's face it, you have ALWAYS been able to leave the line if you needed to and make your way back to your family. That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

While it's not a special accommodation but IMO that's the point Disney is making with these other options. They have always been there and most guests should have been using those instead of DAS.

 

[flynnibus]

And let's face it, you have ALWAYS been able to leave the line if you needed to and make your way back to your family. That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

If things are accessible and meet the participation requirements for the person's covered disability - they don't NEED special accomodations.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

And yet there are how many reports and vlogs showing that this is not consistent? And Disney says to talk to the cast member about what "might" be given. And let's face it, you have ALWAYS been able to leave the line if you needed to and make your way back to your family. That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

accommodations are not supposed to be consistent. They are supposed to be tailored as much possible to the individual need. What accommodation our party may need and after discussion with WDW they provide is absolutely no business of yours.

And as has been said already, if the accommodations that are available to everyone work for a particular person's individual situation, they do not need any other special accommodation.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

accommodations are not supposed to be consistent. They are supposed to be tailored as much possible to the individual need. What accommodation our party may need and after discussion with WDW they provide is absolutely no business of yours.

And as has been said already, if the accommodations that are available to everyone work for a particular person's individual situation, they do not need any other special accommodation.

it can also change by the day. For example the person from that Tik Tok video who had sensitivity to sun - if it is a super sunny day vs a very overcast day, things are different. If for Tron the line is out of the building or fully inside is different.

I do understand people being anxious about it - DAS was/is a known commodity and the unknown brings anxiety especially when there is so much $ attached to the trip. Hopefully over time people do get more comfortable with how things will be handled (or at least likely to be handled) and then can determine if that is sufficient or not for them to be willing to spend the # on a Disney trip

 

[DoubleSwitchback]

And yet there are how many reports and vlogs showing that this is not consistent? And Disney says to talk to the cast member about what "might" be given. And let's face it, you have ALWAYS been able to leave the line if you needed to and make your way back to your family. That is NOT any kind of special accommodation.

This is a very vulnerable admission. It's 100% okay to want to feel "special", that's very human -- but that's not the purpose of these accommodations.

 

[Splash4eva]

So again, when is your trip when your assumptions will be tested?

I go Wednesday but again i have DAS. So there are no assumptions to be made on my part i dont need to use the alternative

 

[Splash4eva]

Or, Disney can stop being so greedy and go back to the free fastpass system. Yeah, they make less money, but everyone was a lot happier then. And everyone felt like they were getting a bit more value out of their visits.

Basically this entire board complained about FP and anyone who was happy with it including myself was accused of lying about how successful we were with it lol

 

[Jrb1979]

Basically this entire board complained about FP and anyone who was happy with it including myself was accused of lying about how successful we were with it lol

That's not it at all. Those who knew how to use it were successful. Nobody said you were lying just it wasn't sustainable due to lack of capacity.