New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

ConfettiCupcake

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People are free to try what they want to try and say what they want to say to CMs, if what we’ve heard is accurate and amount of RTQ given out is going to be heavily scrutinized so its either not going to work out for the guest or it’s going to cause another overhaul of the system.

I think until reports prove otherwise Disney is well aware of their guest demographics, typical group make ups, needs that qualify/no longer qualify, how many outlier kind of situations may come through the line, and has developed their procedures accordingly.
 

ConfettiCupcake

Well-Known Member
And some also don't seem to want to accept that DAS as it was/is *is* giving many DAS users on average the same experience over the course of the day because of the extra needs involved they need to address throughout the day.

The difference seems to be looking at the experience individually queue by queue vs looking at the holistic experience over an entire day.

I think Disney is just looking at the queue by queue experience though, aren’t they?

The entire day experience is such a can of worms IMO. That opens the door to comparing APs, once in a lifetime guests, one day ticket holders, etc.
 

DoubleSwitchback

Well-Known Member
And some also don't seem to want to accept that DAS as it was/is *is* giving many DAS users on average the same experience over the course of the day because of the extra needs involved they need to address throughout the day.

The difference seems to be looking at the experience individually queue by queue vs looking at the holistic experience over an entire day.
That's fair. I'm sure there are many for whom that's true.

I suppose our perspectives are shaped by where we used to spend time... until recently, I hadn't been a "message board" guy since the early 2000s :). I am used to the DAS FB groups (I have a disability that I've never used DAS for, but the groups can be helpful with other tips that are relevant to me) which are definitely more toxic and more about manipulation. It's wild how much tone has changed before and after the changes were announced/implemented. Before, it was all about tricks for double-dipping, cramming in as much as possible, how early you can scan in, how many extra guests you can talk to the CMs in to, etc.; after, the tone is "but we barely ride a single ride".
 

Angel Ariel

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I think Disney is just looking at the queue by queue experience though, aren’t they?

The entire day experience is such a can of worms IMO. That opens the door to comparing APs, once in a lifetime guests, one day ticket holders, etc.
No, I don't think Disney made this decision just looking at individual queue by queue data WRT DAS. I absolutely think they looked at holistic data which is how they determined how to limit who was going to continue to qualify for DAS.
 

ConfettiCupcake

Well-Known Member
No, I don't think Disney made this decision just looking at individual queue by queue data WRT DAS. I absolutely think they looked at holistic data which is how they determined how to limit who was going to continue to qualify for DAS.

Oh I see what I you meant. I think I misunderstood and thought you meant what the DAS program as a whole intended to do.
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
That's fair. I'm sure there are many for whom that's true.

I suppose our perspectives are shaped by where we used to spend time... until recently, I hadn't been a "message board" guy since the early 2000s :). I am used to the DAS FB groups (I have a disability that I've never used DAS for, but the groups can be helpful with other tips that are relevant to me) which are definitely more toxic and more about manipulation. It's wild how much tone has changed before and after the changes were announced/implemented. Before, it was all about tricks for double-dipping, cramming in as much as possible, how early you can scan in, how many extra guests you can talk to the CMs in to, etc.; after, the tone is "but we barely ride a single ride".
Yeah, I don't hang out in groups like that, but I can see how that would color a perspective! 😊
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
if a solo traveler is not guaranteed a return time how is that person accommodated?
Nobody is guaranteed a return time.

As I said earlier if a solo traveler is waiting in the standby line and needs to leave they would be accommodated by giving them a return time. Stepping in to the standby line and then immediately exiting and requesting a return time is not the same thing.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
Nobody is guaranteed a return time.

As I said earlier if a solo traveler is waiting in the standby line and needs to leave they would be accommodated by giving them a return time. Stepping in to the standby line and then immediately exiting and requesting a return time is not the same thing.
So a solo traveler is guaranteed a return time if he requests one stating he needs to leave the line? Yes or No?
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
If they have been waiting in the standby queue they will be provided a return time if they need to leave.

This has been answered and explained for you already. But you are obsessed with creating scenarios of abuse
So i will take that as a yes. Thank you… if a CM cant determine how long someone been in line for to give them a fair return time not sure how they could determine someone wasnt in line “long enough”.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
If they have been waiting in the standby queue they will be provided a return time if they need to leave.

This has been answered and explained for you already. But you are obsessed with creating scenarios of abuse
So for years DAS has been abused by everyones admission (personally i feel
Exaggerated) yet now im obsessed about a simple scenario of how abuse can easily happen?!?
 

nickys

Premium Member
So a solo traveler is guaranteed a return time if he requests one stating he needs to leave the line? Yes or No?

Noone is guaranteed a return time. Just like no one was guaranteed DAS under the old rules.

But if you do have to leave then the chances are good that you will be given a return time if you explain your situation. And that has been happening. If it is a likely scenario, you can speak to a CM beforehand. In some cases there may be an alternative option provided - again that has been happening.

You may end up waiting longer than you would have done had you stayed in line. That should be enough of a deterrent for guests not to try it unless they really have to.

And some guests have specifically been granted DAS for solo trips but not if they are travelling with others (adults).

Ultimately no one can give a guarantee as to how you will be accommodated. There have been reports of both positive and negative experiences.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Maybe you are missing the point im trying to make. It happens. All im saying is why would anyone who understand their limits more than anyone willingly wait until
That limit is reached and then leave the line and have to wait a much longer wait time… it would make no sense.
It kind of does if you are then given a return time so you don't have to wait in the rest of the line. It's the "not able to stand in line" that's being accommodated - not your time. Time is so valuable at WDW that they actually sell it in the form of Genie+/ILLs.
 

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