News New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

Smiley/OCD

Smiley/OCD

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WondersOfLife said:
They are a student of mine with a parent that comes up with a new label for that student every other week. Which, I know the student very well. They're just a bit sheltered/homeschooled. And only started having anxiety symptoms when their mom would ask "are you okay?" But when they were away from their mom, just a "normal" kid. And yes, I did enjoy taking advantage of the system. But I have no guilt because it wasnt my choice. I havent done it for myself before. Thatd just be morally wrong.

I know there are people who actually need help and assistance. This isnt the case for the group I was with.

Anyways, all valid points from everyone responding. 🤷‍♂️ In all seriousness, though... Im not opposed to a system where you do have to prove yourself with proper documentation... And if it is a bit too inconvenient or you cannot prove it, then maybe just move on to other new adventures... Is what my viewpoints boil down to.
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I actually agree with you on several points…as a DAS user, I have no problem going through the “dog & pony” show to prove my disability…I think the card, permit, pass, etc, should be valid for a longer period of time like the handicapped placard…in NJ, they’re good for 3 years. I’m not opposed to doing what needs to be done to get the pass if you need it.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Andrew25 said:
The only solution WDW has is to increase the complexity of receiving the pass, which a 3rd party does.
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It’s not a solution because it pushes Disney toward breaking the law.

DisneyCane said:
If they ever build a fifth gate and design it for 100% VQ that would solve the problem. They can't just transform the current parks to 100% VQ because there isn't enough room to handle the people who are currently in line in a queue.
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There’s a reason Epic Universe isn’t a virtual queue only park.
 
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Comped

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Angel Ariel said:
I get that many don't understand what the big deal is. When you have to deal with "just a few additional steps" everywhere, it adds up. Fast.

I got a phone call from one of DD's medical providers today saying a referral was denied, for a service that is required for an appt we have tomorrow. We were assured 2 months ago that notes would be added to the system to ensure these referrals would be approved because it's necessary to go to this particular provider as they have equipment that our typical provider does not, which is required for our daughter's disability. Obviously those notes weren't made. Or weren't made appropriately. So now I get to spend the day exchanging electronic messages and phone calls trying to solve this issue in less than 24 hrs for an appt that's been on the books since December.

This isn't a one time thing. This happens multiple times a month. If it's not a medical issue taking the time, it's an educational issue dealing with her IEP. We've had something like 7 IEP meetings since August trying to get our child services she needs, that the school team recognizes she needs, but that the district's central office doesn't want to provide and has actively delayed multiple times. And that's with an advocate coming with us.

Disney has been a refuge, because it's literally one place we have been able to leave the PITA of medical and educational bureaucracy entirely at the door, and just focus on having fun with her. so while my posts may seem "defensive" it's more just frustration and exhaustion that one of the very few refuges we've had is now going to have just a few additional steps too.
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Oh god, do not talk to me about referrals. This has happened many times for me. Far too many times...
sWANNISAX said:
So unless you disability is autism spectrum your out of luck? That's what I'm taking away from this?
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I'd love to know more about this myself - as my disability I've always used as reasoning for DAS (and have paperwork for) is not autism-related. Would be bloody well gutted if they stopped my eligibility because of it, and it'd make me seriously consider renewing my AP.
 
Andrew25

Andrew25

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sWANNISAX said:
So unless you disability is autism spectrum your out of luck? That's what I'm taking away from this?
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No, "developmental disabilities" makes it sound like its tied to a specific group, but is still rather vague.

Disney's goal here is to make it "difficult" for anyone to claim they need the pass. Any sort of serious disability will be accommodated in some capacity, but outright "skipping the line" will be reduced significantly.
 
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sWANNISAX

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If the goal is to complicate it I would actually rather the use the universal system. I qualified there with my doctors notes despite my issue not being developmental or autism
 
Angel Ariel

Angel Ariel

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Andrew25 said:
No, "developmental disabilities" makes it sound like its tied to a specific group, but is still rather vague.

Disney's goal here is to make it "difficult" for anyone to claim they need the pass. Any sort of serious disability will be accommodated in some capacity, but outright "skipping the line" will be reduced significantly.
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But here's the thing - for those whose disability isn't well known, it could also impede getting necessary accommodations.

We don't have the luxury of saying a diagnosis and even having an expectation that a doctor knows what it is. Unless they're a long term provider for DD, they've never heard of it. So this work with Inspire Health Alliance could mean no changes for us, or could present a problem. Yay for another wait and see. 😮‍💨
 
Andrew25

Andrew25

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To me it sounds like the "return to queue" feature will at least provide relief in case someone is denied. Not saying it's right, but it looks like it'll be an secondary option?
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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So you will speak with a CM, and then if they don’t feel you qualify / don’t understand why you need the accommodation, they will pass you on to the third party who then ultimately make the decision?
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Drdcm said:
The reality is the person assigning the passes is going to have no qualifications. The only difference is that instead of a random CM with no qualifications, a random IBCCES person with no qualifications.
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As it has been implemented elsewhere it is worse, it is both reviewing. The individual venues are making people go through the IBCCES process and then still deciding for themselves whether or not to honor that determination. It is purely an extra step being added to the processes.
 

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