New Boats on Pirates

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
This has sparked a question in my mind....how do immobile guests experience Pirates, or do they? ECV's and wheelchairs can't go up the speedramp at unload, and I don't think there's an elevator. I guess I've never in my life seen someone transferring at PotC. And given these parameters, I don't think a wheelchair boat is even worth addressing, given the inability to unload and leave the building safely on anything but feet.

There is an elevator. ECVs can't go in the queue, guests have to transfer to a standard chair which can go through the queue. Once the guests load a nice cast member wheels the chairs, two at a time, out the back door, out to the front of the building, around the front of the building, past the gift shop, around a corner and into an elevator. Down a floor, through a door and right to the unload platform. Then repeats this process. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Especially at Christmas time where it becomes apparent that 45% of the park's attendance is wheelchair bound.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
Must be people mocking George... Couldn't possibly be because of the new boats... George is actually filling the boats with water now... He is setting up the ride to go 101 all the time...

Okay, so maybe it's not George. Sounds like the new boats don't "push the water away" in their new form. Time to break out some "Bondo" and fiberglass to make "splash guards". This flaw could have been noted during testing and prevented this issue.

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YankeeMouse

Well-Known Member
I was there. It was down often but we did get on...and I was shocked at the new permanent Fast Pass + line, it is on the right and a permanent sign (Likewise Haunted Mansion). Everyone was forced to go into the left line but the right line had no chain across so we went there, just as we always had. When we got to the break where the cast member was, we explained we came in from the side and didn't see the Fast Pass + sign (true) and wandered in so she let us in There were only a couple of guests doing the test with the wristbands. We got right on but the standby line was pretty bad, it looked like. Off topic here, but is this what we are going to experience? Huge standby lines because Disney is giving us Fast Pass + options that are not needed (continuous rides and shows) in order to give us those 3 fastpasses a day? And you no longer have the choice of going to the side of the graveyard in HM, you have to go through the graveyard. Once you get to the break where the cast member is, will there be an option to be pulsed through either line? I've been reading about this for months now and was not worried until I experienced it for myself this weekend. Oh. And Laugh Floor has a Fast Pass+ line too...huh???
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
I was there. It was down often but we did get on...and I was shocked at the new permanent Fast Pass + line, it is on the right and a permanent sign (Likewise Haunted Mansion). Everyone was forced to go into the left line but the right line had no chain across so we went there, just as we always had. When we got to the break where the cast member was, we explained we came in from the side and didn't see the Fast Pass + sign (true) and wandered in so she let us in There were only a couple of guests doing the test with the wristbands. We got right on but the standby line was pretty bad, it looked like. Off topic here, but is this what we are going to experience? Huge standby lines because Disney is giving us Fast Pass + options that are not needed (continuous rides and shows) in order to give us those 3 fastpasses a day? And you no longer have the choice of going to the side of the graveyard in HM, you have to go through the graveyard. Once you get to the break where the cast member is, will there be an option to be pulsed through either line? I've been reading about this for months now and was not worried until I experienced it for myself this weekend. Oh. And Laugh Floor has a Fast Pass+ line too...huh???

On your "Off-Topic" thoughts, I say welcome to the heart of FastPassMinus concerns. There are numerous threads that cover this and MyMagicMinus observations.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/my-magic-details.867852/unread
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/spirited-news-observations-thoughts-iv.870129/unread

A whole area of threads about it:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/forums/using-mymagic-fastpass-and-my-disney-experience.135/

Back to the topic. As far as the boats go, having the attraction go 101 all the time isn't helping the standby folks one bit. On my recent visit, I did not get on PotC as it was never up and running when I was "park hopping" in and out of MK.

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RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
I was there. It was down often but we did get on...and I was shocked at the new permanent Fast Pass + line, it is on the right and a permanent sign (Likewise Haunted Mansion). Everyone was forced to go into the left line but the right line had no chain across so we went there, just as we always had. When we got to the break where the cast member was, we explained we came in from the side and didn't see the Fast Pass + sign (true) and wandered in so she let us in There were only a couple of guests doing the test with the wristbands. We got right on but the standby line was pretty bad, it looked like. Off topic here, but is this what we are going to experience? Huge standby lines because Disney is giving us Fast Pass + options that are not needed (continuous rides and shows) in order to give us those 3 fastpasses a day? And you no longer have the choice of going to the side of the graveyard in HM, you have to go through the graveyard. Once you get to the break where the cast member is, will there be an option to be pulsed through either line? I've been reading about this for months now and was not worried until I experienced it for myself this weekend. Oh. And Laugh Floor has a Fast Pass+ line too...huh???
The line should look twice as long as it did before but take up the same amount of time as no one is really using FP+ yet. As for how it will be when FP+ rolls out who knows. The idea is that the Standby lines will move faster then now overall as people are limited to 3 FP+ per day and they are spread out over more rides and attractions. Only time will tell.
 

asbva

New Member
How is the water getting in them? The drop does not put that much water into one of these boats. Not in my 38 years of experience anyway.

I don't think water is leaking into the boats. There is a new "Spit" (air cannon) around the mermaid section that got me 2 weeks ago. It is shooting tons of water into the boat and on the passengers. When we road a couple times it would get certain rows of the boats. Got wetter than I did on splash mountain that day. My husband and sons said the mermaids didnt like girls so they were spitting on us.
 

FutureWorld1982

Well-Known Member
By the way, does anyone know if they plan on having wheelchair-accessible boats in the near future? I know that it may be very difficult due to the drop, but then why do they have the larger entrance on one side of the loading dock? It's got two larger gates, and the entrance looks wide enough to fit a wheelchair.
 

jl2081

Active Member
Caught this pic back in july, just joined today and figured I would share it since I had it.
 

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MissM

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Anyone at MK this past weekend? Pirates must have gone down so many times I could not count.
We were there Sunday. In line - and yes, FORCED into the left-hand side only; right side was reserved for FP+ (which STINKS since I have like 8 years of photos of the Chess Game and now I can't get on that side to take a photo anymore without a FP+ GRR) - and they announced the ride was down and we were welcome to wait or just go back out the way we came. We went out the way we came. :rolleyes:
 

Clamman73

Well-Known Member
I don't think water is leaking into the boats. There is a new "Spit" (air cannon) around the mermaid section that got me 2 weeks ago. It is shooting tons of water into the boat and on the passengers. When we road a couple times it would get certain rows of the boats. Got wetter than I did on splash mountain that day. My husband and sons said the mermaids didnt like girls so they were spitting on us.
Why would they want people to get wet on Pirates from more than the little bit of splash on the drop...who is making the decisions like that at MK?
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
By the way, does anyone know if they plan on having wheelchair-accessible boats in the near future? I know that it may be very difficult due to the drop, but then why do they have the larger entrance on one side of the loading dock? It's got two larger gates, and the entrance looks wide enough to fit a wheelchair.
The larger set of gates has been there since the gates were originally installed. It is wide enough to fit a wheelchair so that guests needing to can roll their wheelchair all the way up to the boat before transferring.
 

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