New Awful Security Screening Process

[Chi84]

Lol, I see it as the opposite, letting people know they have a gambler's chance. The smugglers can always express surprise -- "how did THAT get in there?" -- and try again later and/or elsewhere.

Yeah I don’t think “how did THAT get in there?” would work.

The Orlando club shooter said he scoped out Disney Springs but chose another target because of security. So it does have a deterrent effect.

 

[Chi84]

It likely is a deterrent to most but also a very glaring security flaw to anyone paying attention, many times as I’ve stood in the long security line I’ve thought about how easy it would be to smuggle anything I want into the parks using a stroller. Big carts with hollow tubes and hollow plastic trays… it would be so simple to sneak in booze (or worse if you had ill intent)… without close inspections security would never find the items, it’s why I prefer WDWs more passive system, since I have no idea what it’s capable of finding I wouldn’t even attempt to sneak in things I know aren’t allowed.

With all the strollers, umbrellas, walking sticks, motorized scooters, etc that come into the parks the sniffing dogs likely provide 99% of the real security with the bag checks the remaining 1%.

I’m only familiar with WDW.

 

[Parteecia]

it would be so simple to sneak in booze (or worse if you had ill intent)

Ironically during that close search he never checked my travel mug which was full of sugar free hot cocoa but could have been anything.

 

[Parteecia]

Yeah I don’t think “how did THAT get in there?” would work.

A lot of the stuff you can't bring in isn't illegal so at worst you have the choice of trashing it or returning it to your vehicle, hotel, etc.

 

[Parteecia]

With all the strollers, umbrellas, walking sticks, motorized scooters, etc that come into the parks the sniffing dogs likely provide 99% of the real security with the bag checks the remaining 1%.

We enter by the former ESPN and Rainforest Cafe. Rarely if ever see a dog there.

ETA Uh oh, now I've let them know.

 

[Chi84]

A lot of the stuff you can't bring in isn't illegal so at worst you have the choice of trashing it or returning it to your vehicle, hotel, etc.

Disney probably isn’t as concerned about that type of stuff getting through. It’s good enough that it’s prohibited - most will comply. The others may be deterred by the prospect of possibly having to trash the item or return it to the vehicle.

 

[Parteecia]

Disney probably isn’t as concerned about that type of stuff getting through. It’s good enough that it’s prohibited - most will comply. The others may be deterred by the prospect of possibly having to trash the item or return it to the vehicle.

If you're a bad guy looking to do a knife attack you may be willing to lose a few to security.

My boyfriend and I flew to Tahiti a month after 9/11. As they were putting us through stringent searches we kept pointing out to each other, quietly, all of the risks they were missing like metal dinnerware, flight attendants wearing perky neckerchiefs that could be grabbed and twisted, etc.

 

[Chi84]

If you're a bad guy looking to do a knife attack you may be willing to lose a few to security.

And maybe you’re deterred. What’s your point?

 

[Parteecia]

And maybe you’re deterred. What’s your point?

Good question! Temporarily deterred? A bad guy can be persistent especially when they've scoped out the weaknesses of the current system? I believe my original point was about the inconsistency that leads to a false sense of safety and a real sense of annoyance.

 

[Chi84]

Good question! Temporarily deterred? A bad guy can be persistent especially when they've scoped out the weaknesses of the current system? I believe my original point was about the inconsistency that leads to a false sense of safety and a real sense of annoyance.

What type of consistency would you like to see?

 

[Disney Irish]

Good question! Temporarily deterred? A bad guy can be persistent especially when they've scoped out the weaknesses of the current system? I believe my original point was about the inconsistency that leads to a false sense of safety and a real sense of annoyance.

I think you all keep missing the point, only caring about your own personal annoyance.

The idea isn't to catch every single thing that could potential be used by a bad person, its to deter the bad person from even trying in the first place. If it deters 99.99% of bad people then its done its job. You can always find loop holes, and when they get discovered by someone trying to use that loop hole, the hole get plugged, and its now part of the process of things that get searched for.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I’m only familiar with WDW.

Then why are you participating in this discussion?

The security situation at Disneyland is vastly different than at WDW, hence this thread. It’s security theater in Anaheim, and it hurts the guest experience. I go to lots of concerts, sporting events, and other theme parks in SoCal and across the country (including WDW), and Disneyland’s security is 20 years behind the times (and somehow getting worse). Searching through every single glasses case and asking guests countless questions is totally preposterous in 2024.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then why are you participating in this discussion?

The security situation at Disneyland is vastly different than at WDW, hence this thread. It’s security theater in Anaheim, and it hurts the guest experience. I go to lots of concerts, sporting events, and other theme parks in SoCal and across the country (including WDW), and Disneyland’s security is 20 years behind the times (and somehow getting worse). Searching through every single glasses case and asking guests countless questions is totally preposterous in 2024.

We've been told many times on this site that just because someone doesn't experience something themselves doesn't mean they can't participate in discussions about it.

Also you do realize that a majority of DLR Security and their processes aren't seen by guests. So your comment that its 20 years behind is inaccurate just because the guest facing side isn't up to your standard.

 

[Chi84]

Then why are you participating in this discussion?

The security situation at Disneyland is vastly different than at WDW, hence this thread. It’s security theater in Anaheim, and it hurts the guest experience. I go to lots of concerts, sporting events, and other theme parks in SoCal and across the country (including WDW), and Disneyland’s security is 20 years behind the times (and somehow getting worse). Searching through every single glasses case and asking guests countless questions is totally preposterous in 2024.

Apologies. I did get the two security threads mixed up.

 

[Too Many Hats]

We've been told many times on this site that just because someone doesn't experience something themselves doesn't mean they can't participate in discussions about it.

Does that poster realize the security process at Disneyland is completely different than at WDW? If not, they shouldn’t be defending it so adamantly.

Also you do realize that a majority of DLR Security isn't seen by guests. So your comment that its 20 years behind is inaccurate just because the guest facing side isn't up to your standard.

Okay then: the guest facing side of security at Disneyland is 20 years behind every other major theme park, sports arena, and concert venue I’ve attended the last 5 years.

 

[Disney Irish]

Does that poster realize the security process at Disneyland is completely different than at WDW? If not, they shouldn’t be defending it so adamantly.

That still doesn't mean they can't participate. Instead of coming down so hard why not educate if you think the poster is mistaken.

Okay then: the guest facing side of security at Disneyland is 20 years behind every other major theme park, sports arena, and concert venue I’ve attended the last 5 years.

As has been said in this thread before, there is likely reasons (such as the union) on why the guest facing side is the way it is at DLR. Also as I recall from previous discussions about this topic back years ago, Disney Security works with law enforcement regularly on their search protocols. So its very likely they are doing things for a specific reason, not just to annoy guests.

So again just because you think its 20 years behind doesn't mean it really is, you just may not be aware of everything going on and because it deals with security and guest safety they aren't going to tell you the reasons why.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Apologies. I did get the two security threads mixed up.

No worries at all. My apologies for being aggro about it.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The Orlando club shooter said he scoped out Disney Springs but chose another target because of security.

When did he say that? He was killed by police at the event.

What was reported, I believe, was that he was observed at Disney Springs prior to the attack but I’m not sure there is any evidence he was there to scope it out.

 

[Chi84]

When did he say that? He was killed by police at the event.

What was reported, I believe, was that he was observed at Disney Springs prior to the attack but I’m not sure there is any evidence he was there to scope it out.

You’re probably correct; I don’t recall specifically. Same result though.

 

[Chi84]

When did he say that? He was killed by police at the event.

What was reported, I believe, was that he was observed at Disney Springs prior to the attack but I’m not sure there is any evidence he was there to scope it out.

Apparently it was based on statements from his wife and supporting evidence that he bought a doll and stroller.