TP2000
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but..but I Thought you were Al Lutz??? At least that is what the interwebs told me.
That was wrong. I'm actually a Nigerian Prince who just needs some of your banking information.
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New 350 room DVC tower coming to Disneyland Hotel
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That was wrong. I'm actually a Nigerian Prince who just needs some of your banking information.
TP2000
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You may not be able to talk about it, but I can.
Unlike Las Vegas or a SOAR meeting, what happens in Villa Park doesn't have to stay in Villa Park.
That's a great point on how the Paradise Pier Hotel does NOT appear within Disney property on the Anaheim Resort planning documents, because of that weird agreement with the Japanese developer who still gets a cut of all the profits from that hotel. The Paradise Pier Hotel land shows up that way on official planning documents available via Anaheim's city website, like the updated 2017 map seen here where the Paradise Pier Hotel is shaded in red... http://anaheim.net/DocumentCenter/View/2474/Anaheim-Resort-Specific-Plan-Map?bidId=
And yes, GardenWalk and a few other chunks of land are not shaded in red. There's a property development firm in Dubai that is not happy about that, while Paul Kott ordered a bottle of very good champagne over that, but then that was fodder at another cocktail party that Disney wouldn't want you to know about.
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Franklin47disneyguy
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They can demo the PPH plant some trees and built new room inventory on the large parking lot next to it.
TP2000
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Actually they can't. If they demo the hotel they owe even more money to the Japanese property owner. It's cheaper for Disney to keep it running as-is and pay off their 8% annually.
Franklin47disneyguy
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But they can build rooms on that parking lot right? I can see a revival of the eastern gateway, now that the relation with the city is better.
TP2000
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They can do whatever they want with that parking lot, but they are saving it for future use. It's prime real estate.
But the eyesore that is the 1980's Paradise Pier Hotel is a major roadblock, both literally and figuratively, to any development there for the time being.
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Mouse Trap
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They can do whatever they want with that parking lot, but they are saving it for future use. It's prime real estate.
But the eyesore that is the 1980's Paradise Pier Hotel is a major roadblock, both literally and figuratively, to any development there for the time being.
Never realized just how dang big that parking lot really is!
lazyboy97o
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The WestCOT plans predate Disney's acquisition of the Pan Pacific Hotel. If you look at the WestCOT master plans you will see that the Pan Pacific Hotel is actually a little untouched island.
TP2000
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Here's the Westcot plan from the early 1990's. Look at that little island at center left just above the number 6 on this map, where the Pan Pacific is (now the Paradise Pier Hotel).
Robbiem
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Here's the Westcot plan from the early 1990's. Look at that little island at center left just above the number 6 on this map, where the Pan Pacific is (now the Paradise Pier Hotel).
Thanks I always assumed Disney owned the hotel when westcot was planned, would have been interesting to see a third party hotel surrounded by a Disney resort kinda like the bonnet creek area in Florida
buymeanapple
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I wonder when the PP hotel will finally be out from under that contract. Sucks that it is just being allowed to sit there stuck in time especially since it has such a great view of DCA....
TP2000
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What's also interesting about that circa 1990 Resort map is the big ride warehouse they built beyond the berm where half of Star Wars Land is now. They knew that was expansion area even then, but were still thinking kind of small compared to Star Wars Land. While the Disneyland Railroad maintains its circa 1966 route, the Rivers of America maintains its 1955 layout, and the Skyway and PeopleMover still exist.
And the Indiana Jones complex was also slotted in as an existing building, while Toontown was still not quite fleshed out.
I bet those designers circa 1990 would be amazed at the massive physical changes made to Disneyland park by 2020, while the "Resort" expansion that grew up around it all looks rather mundane and only a shadow of their bold plans from 1990. That's the ongoing fallout of Paul Pressler's dark era.
And the Indiana Jones complex was also slotted in as an existing building, while Toontown was still not quite fleshed out.
I bet those designers circa 1990 would be amazed at the massive physical changes made to Disneyland park by 2020, while the "Resort" expansion that grew up around it all looks rather mundane and only a shadow of their bold plans from 1990. That's the ongoing fallout of Paul Pressler's dark era.
EPCOTCenterLover
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You mean WESTCOT? There's a plan and decision I'd love to hear more about!
Is Disney a bad negotiator? They buy up everything and proceed to ruin it. Hmmm. Galaxy’s Edge, Star Wars, Disneyland Resort, Fox.
Ismael Flores
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Here's the Westcot plan from the early 1990's. Look at that little island at center left just above the number 6 on this map, where the Pan Pacific is (now the Paradise Pier Hotel).
I wish they would go ahead with those plans for that property. That hotel with the water feature would be a welcome addition to that area and at least give the Paradise Pier hotel a sense of belonging to the resort.
Disney Analyst
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I wonder if they’ll build a grander lobby with this tower, to replace the former? Kind of like what they’ve done with other tower expansions at WDW.
Then they could slowly demo and rebuild new towers.
Then they could slowly demo and rebuild new towers.
