Nemo Concept Art Woes

dxwwf3

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speck76 said:
IMO....the pavilion has never been on the level with the others in FW

I'll agree with that, but I thought the pavilion was very well done and had a great theme. Possibly one of the best executed themes at WDW, IMO. The film had some of the best lines in Epcot history. And sure the hydrolaters felt dated as of late, but you have to view it in proper context. Not too many attractions transported you to another world the same way TLS did......and for the record I still believed the hydrolaters worked until high school :lol:
 

dxwwf3

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ISTCNavigator57 said:
Except when I would see people exit through the normal exit doors and see sun-shiny Epcot outside...

When you're in the sixth grade, you tend to not pay attention to stuff like that.
 

TP2000

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Some more info on this Nemo/Seacab thing showed up this morning on Miceage with Al Lutz's latest update. It was kind of buried amongst all the other juicy gossip about Disneyland, but here's the part that mentioned Epcot...

"Speaking of cheaper copies being sent out to Florida, they recently announced a remodeled version of the old Seacabs ride for The Living Seas pavilion at Epcot that will feature the same underwater technology being used for Disneyland's new submarine ride. The Seacabs ride opened with the pavilion in 1986, but were closed and mothballed in late 2000 as a budget cutting move. When this Finding Nemo version of the short omnimover ride past aquarium windows opens in October, it will give us all a good preview of what to expect from the Disneyland version that opens six months later.

The three minute long Epcot ride will be a shortened and condensed version of just a couple of Disneyland's planned show scenes, and without all of the bells and whistles Disneyland has budgeted for its grander ten minute long experience. At Epcot, the main focus will be on Mr. Ray (above) and his class, which is the same show scene that is going in to the big cement building they've been constructing out in the Disneyland lagoon the past few months.

The WDI folks involved in the Epcot version were saddened to see much of the gee-whiz technology and extra effects Disneyland is getting cut from their original proposal, but the basic concept of digitally projected characters appearing underwater will give Disneyland fans a sneak peak at their bigger attraction coming a few months later."


The rest, including a brief mention of the WDW Pirates rehab, can be found at http://www.miceage.com
 

dxwwf3

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speck76 said:
well....enough said

:drevil:

:lol:

:fork:

:lol:

I just thought they were regular 2 floor elevators :)

(I'll be perfectly honest, we didn't go to TLS all that much for a while. Maybe once every 3 or 4 years. So there's NO way I could complain about these changes (which I am in favor of). I could really appreciate the theme and I did enjoy it, but it wasn't something we had to see every time. And it looks like we weren't the only ones)
 

speck76

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dxwwf3 said:
:fork:

:lol:

I just thought they were regular 2 floor elevators :)

(I'll be perfectly honest, we didn't go to TLS all that much for a while. Maybe once every 3 or 4 years. So there's NO way I could complain about these changes (which I am in favor of). I could really appreciate the theme and I did enjoy it, but it wasn't something we had to see every time. And it looks like we weren't the only ones)
considering it was most likely one of the more expensive pavilions to create, if not the most expensive (sans SSE), it should have been more of a headliner
 

dxwwf3

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speck76 said:
considering it was most likely one of the more expensive pavilions to create, if not the most expensive (sans SSE), it should have been more of a headliner

I can't disagree with that one bit.

Well I have a feeling they are getting ready to get their headliner by the end of the year (And quiet all of the complaints that there aren't enough kids rides at Epcot).
 

speck76

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dxwwf3 said:
I can't disagree with that one bit.

Well I have a feeling they are getting ready to get their headliner by the end of the year (And quiet all of the complaints that there aren't enough kids rides at Epcot).
and.....as many people have a hard time accepting...it is all about balance

If you look at Epcot's last few additions

Test Track (teen/adult)
JII (kids)
Mission Space (teen/adult)
Soarin (family)
The Seas with Nemo and Friends (kids)

they have done a good job at balancing the additions.....Epcot is not becoming a thrill park, as many people claim....it is becoming more balanced.
 

dxwwf3

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speck76 said:
and.....as many people have a hard time accepting...it is all about balance

You knew this was coming.....

Is the Magic Kingdom immune from the balance of the other parks?
 

Epcot82Guy

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dxwwf3 said:
You knew this was coming.....

Is the Magic Kingdom immune from the balance of the other parks?

That's a good point. MK is starting to be about as balanced as a certain ex-supermodel from Surreal Life IMHO.

Seriously, though, I think that sending parks into identity crises isn't really respectful of the history of the parks or a good business model. However, I haven't heard anyone claim that having a child-friendly (or even focused) attraction at Epcot is a bad thing. It just needs to fit is all.
 

dxwwf3

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Epcot82Guy said:
That's a good point. MK is starting to be about as balanced as a certain ex-supermodel from Surreal Life IMHO.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's hillarious.


And yes I understand that the MK packs 'em in and their business is always the best and on and on and on. But that doesn't have anything to do with my question.
 

speck76

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dxwwf3 said:
You knew this was coming.....

Is the Magic Kingdom immune from the balance of the other parks?

no....but it is a different balance

each park has its own tipping point

MGM is gear more towards adult/teen attractions.....not just with the 3 thrill rides, but many of the attractions are not meant or understood by smaller children.

MK is the balance to MGM.....it has adult rides, but has more attractions geared towards the smaller set.

Epcot is fairly balanced ride wise, but overall it is more geared towards the older set.

DAK, much like Epcot, is also geared closer to the older set...
 

dxwwf3

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I understand speck. And I agree to a point. But I think it's getting out of hand at the MK. It's ok for the MK to be more geared towards the younger set, but when you say "geared" it does imply that a balance exists. And that's not happening much at the MK anymore. Look at the park RIGHT NOW: When was the last teen/adult based addition that's still there? Probably Splash Mountain.

I think the MK has found its tipping point and it's starting to go over the line.

I'm not asking for an extreme departure (like you know what), but something like Splash Mountain that deliveres thrills and remains family friendly is EVER SO NEEDED at the MK right now. Not needed in a business sense, but in a park management sense. Just my opinion.
 

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