Nearly a fight on the Monorail

[Slipknot]

All of this fits into the mentality that any stroller moving through WDW must regularly attempt to 'jump to light speed' and bump, push and run over anything in it's path. I don't know how many times I've had to jump out of the way of these space travel events just because someone has no respect for anyone around them, and has decided they want to be somewhere other than where they are 'RIGHT NOW'.

I totally understand that pushing a stroller in those heavy crowds can be a frustrating experience, but don't take it out on me. Why is it necessary to do this right down the center of Main Street in the middle of Wishes?

I know how you feel. My last trip, I was dodging strollers that were being pushed by people who weren't even looking where they were going. I almost get run over by your stoller when your not looking where you are pushing it and you look at me like I did something wrong??? :veryconfu People don't cease to amaze me.

 

[The_CEO]

Yes, your husband did cut in line. Once you are in line, you must stay in line. If you leave (for whatever reason) you have lost your place in line and if you desire to return to the line, then you go to the end. You can't "save" a place in line.

I don't see any problem in saving a place in line considering everyone sees you leave and everyone sees you get back in your place. That isn't line cutting. Ever been to Cedar Point? People leave the line to grab snacks at the vending machine and hop back in line. Same concept, only this was at Universal. Her husband had a reason to leave and it wasn't like he could control that. The people behind you know you were there so what would it mattered if you went to get a bite to eat and returned? It is just one person. I could see a problem if you were saving a spot for a tour group.. But this was one person.

The line cutting I'm talking about is the kind where a group of kids will head into the fastpass line and somehow " forget their FP Ticket " and get let through. I've seen this happen on ToT.

 

[egionet]

Then there are the guests who are the complete opposite. If you stand in anywhere towards the back of the parks, the CM are constantly asking guests to exit because no one wants to leave. We used to do it in Fantasyland all the time. With a smile on your face, you would tell them the park was closed and they had to exit through the castle. And they would look all confused, like why would this park ever close. It's just funny how some people are fighting to get out, and others don't realize the parks ever close.

 

[nickcarraway]

I once heard of 2 women (both with kids) who got into a fist fight in a dispute over who was next in line for the Magic Carpets of Aladdin.

Oh geeze. What a crappy ride to get in a fight over!

 

[maxime29]

A big thing I always notice is when one person gets in line and holds it for 6 or more other people. Rather than telling that one person to come back with them, they have to cut across several others. I know that Disney does have a rule about that, but I wish it was more enforced.

The thing about the monorail I think the CMs is in part to blame. The CMs operating the monorail stations should realize if the monorail is full, then there is no need to let more in. Case in point: During our trip this December (I forget which day), the monorail was full to capacity leaving MK (This was during the early afternoon). When we stopped at Contemporary, there was a long line waiting there for people to get on. They kept putting people on, but only half of them could get on the monorail. The driver had to announce people to move to the other side to let more in. After waiting for 5 minutes, they came to realize they couldn't fit anymore on the train. While there were no fights that I noticed, this could be a possible instigator of a guest's frustration that could break out into something worse.

 

[PurpleDragon]

The thing about the monorail I think the CMs is in part to blame. The CMs operating the monorail stations should realize if the monorail is full, then there is no need to let more in. Case in point: During our trip this December (I forget which day), the monorail was full to capacity leaving MK (This was during the early afternoon). When we stopped at Contemporary, there was a long line waiting there for people to get on. They kept putting people on, but only half of them could get on the monorail. The driver had to announce people to move to the other side to let more in. After waiting for 5 minutes, they came to realize they couldn't fit anymore on the train. While there were no fights that I noticed, this could be a possible instigator of a guest's frustration that could break out into something worse.

Another example of the new Disney mentality "Maximum gain with minimum effort". They figure if they shove all people on the monorail now, they won't have to make another trip to come to pick up. How sad!!

 

[jcraycraft]

A big thing I always notice is when one person gets in line and holds it for 6 or more other people. Rather than telling that one person to come back with them, they have to cut across several others. I know that Disney does have a rule about that, but I wish it was more enforced.

This is the one that gets me going too!!!! :fork: I have seen this way too many times. I just try to think of where we are( and on vacation) and let it go. :zipit:

 

[claning]

People that fight tend to have low self esteem. Mac users and Nascar fans top the list.


While you may be right about Mac users, leave the NASCAR folk out of this! There are many folks that are lovers of both NASCAR and Disney. Besides, I would much rather be trapped on a monorail full of NASCAR fans than football or WWE fans.

 

[Ergens2]

ABout the stroller thing.My husband and I were at MK after one of the parades and we were staning talking with a friend of mine who is an events mananger for WDW. Right infront of us a lady with a 6 year old child (big enough to be walking) in a stroller ran over my husbands sandle clad foot. Needless to say it broke his big toe! My friend had security detain her at the front of the park and we got her information incase we needed it when we went to the hospital. She pitched a royal fit saying we were harassing her and she didn't do it!! :fork: Really, the nerve! We were standing there and watched her. To make matters worse (for her) we were at the same resort. We saw her everywhere and my husband would limp even more when we saw her. :lookaroun Her husband was very nice and very concerned and paid for my husbands emergency xrays and our ER copay without us even asking for it. It is such a shame a great person like him is married to such a B! :fork: BTW, if you have to go to a medical facility while in the world, go to the one in Celebration. It was very nice!

Shelley :wave:

 

[Chase24]

People that fight tend to have low self esteem. Mac users and Nascar fans top the list.

*Note to self...check police reports to see if any were DVC owners..*

= MAC User
= Pace Setter in Left Lane

People who fight should never be allowed in back into whatever venue they are visiting for life. That would make them think about it. What if Dad (Me) could never take his son or daughter back to Disney ever again? That would be quite possilbly the worst punishment I could think of.

 

[diz420]

People that fight tend to have low self esteem. Mac users and Nascar fans top the list.

*Note to self...check police reports to see if any were DVC owners..*

I am a NASCAR fan......Nice jab Woody. :lol: :wave:

 

[Laura]

I don't see any problem in saving a place in line considering everyone sees you leave and everyone sees you get back in your place. That isn't line cutting. Ever been to Cedar Point? People leave the line to grab snacks at the vending machine and hop back in line. Same concept, only this was at Universal. Her husband had a reason to leave and it wasn't like he could control that. The people behind you know you were there so what would it mattered if you went to get a bite to eat and returned? It is just one person. I could see a problem if you were saving a spot for a tour group.. But this was one person.

That is how I feel as well. I have no problem with one member of a party stepping out of the line to take a baby to the bathroom, or grab a snack, or whatever and then stepping back in line, which is why we did it. Everyone behind us saw what was going on and understood. Didn't hurt anything. Where it crosses the line is when 1 person is saving a spot for an entire group so that the group can go to a gift shop or ride on another ride rather than wait in line.

ABout the stroller thing.My husband and I were at MK after one of the parades and we were staning talking with a friend of mine who is an events mananger for WDW. Right infront of us a lady with a 6 year old child (big enough to be walking) in a stroller ran over my husbands sandle clad foot. Needless to say it broke his big toe! My friend had security detain her at the front of the park and we got her information incase we needed it when we went to the hospital. She pitched a royal fit saying we were harassing her and she didn't do it!! Really, the nerve! We were standing there and watched her. To make matters worse (for her) we were at the same resort. We saw her everywhere and my husband would limp even more when we saw her. Her husband was very nice and very concerned and paid for my husbands emergency xrays and our ER copay without us even asking for it. It is such a shame a great person like him is married to such a B! BTW, if you have to go to a medical facility while in the world, go to the one in Celebration. It was very nice!

WOW that is terrible. What a bummer. I'm glad security got her. I can't imagine how painful that must have made the rest of his trip. Some guests should be sedated before entering the park. What's the big hurry anyway?

 

[diddy_mouse]

A big thing I always notice is when one person gets in line and holds it for 6 or more other people. Rather than telling that one person to come back with them, they have to cut across several others. I know that Disney does have a rule about that, but I wish it was more enforced.

ugh! i hate this too! my fiance and i were in line for Space Mtn. (which actually didn't have too long of a wait about 20 min.) and this group of teenagers, like 6 or 7 of them, cut infront of us and 8 other people to meet up with their friends. and if that wasna't annoying enough...through the line, they would just stand there and not move up when the line advanced. i thought the lady and her husband behind us were going to run up there and slap the kid holding up the line :drevil:

good thing is, that was the only bad experience i had on line at Space Mtn.

 

[DisneyPhD]

Yes, your husband did cut in line. Once you are in line, you must stay in line. If you leave (for whatever reason) you have lost your place in line and if you desire to return to the line, then you go to the end. You can't "save" a place in line.

Would you rather he changed it in line? I know the people around them wouldn't! It was a bathroom break after all. (those darm babies, pooping where ever they need too!) :lookaroun

I don't think I would wait in line for ANYTHING for over 45 min with a child or baby. Thank God for fast pass. (note to self, make sure 4 year old uses the potty before entering longer lines or atractions.)

 

[Laura]

Would you rather he changed it in line? I know the people around them wouldn't! It was a bathroom break after all. (those darm babies, pooping where ever they need too!) :lookaroun

I don't think I would wait in line for ANYTHING for over 45 min with a child or baby. Thank God for fast pass. (note to self, make sure 4 year old uses the potty before entering longer lines or atractions.)

I never will wait in more than 25 minute line, even without kids - I'm very impatient! But this was an exception. Universal was completely packed that day, and all the express passes were gone by the time we got there. We had been telling our then 2 year old all week that he was going to see Shrek and he was so excited, I couldn't let him down so we braved the 2 1/2 hour wait. He was incredibly patient in line, didn't complain once, and it was 100 degrees out. But our baby did need to get out of line for a few minutes. No biggy. It was totally not worth the wait though. I thought the attraction was stupid LOL. We only saw 2 other attractions that day (both were shows, not rides grrr). The crowds and the heat were unbearable. It was a huge waste of money going there. Oh well.

 

[Invero]

The thing about the monorail I think the CMs is in part to blame. The CMs operating the monorail stations should realize if the monorail is full, then there is no need to let more in. Case in point: During our trip this December (I forget which day), the monorail was full to capacity leaving MK (This was during the early afternoon). When we stopped at Contemporary, there was a long line waiting there for people to get on. They kept putting people on, but only half of them could get on the monorail. The driver had to announce people to move to the other side to let more in. After waiting for 5 minutes, they came to realize they couldn't fit anymore on the train. While there were no fights that I noticed, this could be a possible instigator of a guest's frustration that could break out into something worse.

As a former Monorail Pilot, I disagree. There are no cameras in the train. When the train pulls into the Contemporary, they have no idea how full the train is. Often times there is plenty of room at the far end of the train. Also, since the train loads on one side at the previous stop and the opposite side at the Contemporary, people are often times standing in the door, blocking access to an otherwise empty car. Asking them to slide over frees up a lot of space.

Station cast members do not know the exact number of people that can fit into the available space, so we have no choice but to just open the gates. It causes less problems to let guests have the option to try and board, than to deny them that option at all.

 

[DizkneeBoi]

Whoever said that someone who has a "baby problem" can't leave the line and come back is ridiculous! Hate to burst your bubble but when you gotta go, you gotta go. *Especially when it's a baby!*

On a side note, I had this happen to me on my last trip. My grandparents, cousin, my brother, and I were all in line for Spaceship Earth and my brother was feeling kinda sick that day. Well my brother had to get to a bathroom ASAP and we were in a spot in the line where it was easy for us to exit and get back, so him and I left the line to go to the bathroom. Well when we got back we realized that we would have to jump over one of the rails to get back in line. ANyways the guy behind us was like "Excuse me you just cut in front of my family!" so I was like "Well my family is right here!!! We just had to run to the bathroom for 2 seconds!" Well my grandfather looked as if he was going to start a brawl! lol Anyways the point is that sometimes emergencies happen while in line and I don't see the problem in gettting back in a line that you have been waiting for a long time if the rest of your family is there.

 

[xfkirsten]

A big thing I always notice is when one person gets in line and holds it for 6 or more other people. Rather than telling that one person to come back with them, they have to cut across several others. I know that Disney does have a rule about that, but I wish it was more enforced.

YES! I hate that! If I'm having a bad day, I'll flat out snap at them for that. I can understand one person needing to leave for a short time and come back, but if a big group is pushing their way through, I usually yell something along the lines of "Did you miss the part where you're supposed to keep your party together?" :lol:

 

[SpectroMan]

I have a fight/stroller story too!

In 1998, my mom's side of the family (11 of us) were in the Magic Kingdom siting on the curb waiting for SpectroMagic. All of a sudden this guy with a stroller starts to push up onto the curb, and he somehow got my little cousin stuck up in the stroller. It was scratching her all up, and she was crying. We tried to tell him that there was a ramp right on the side of us, but he didn't understand English. (So, that makes this a fight/stroller/foreigner story.) Finally, my aunt grabbed the stroller and freed my cousin. My cousin's dad was furious and about to jump one of the people in the man's party. There was also a Canadian hockey player sitting next to my dad, and he told my father that he would have had our backs if something would have happened.

 

[maxime29]

As a former Monorail Pilot, I disagree. There are no cameras in the train. When the train pulls into the Contemporary, they have no idea how full the train is. Often times there is plenty of room at the far end of the train. Also, since the train loads on one side at the previous stop and the opposite side at the Contemporary, people are often times standing in the door, blocking access to an otherwise empty car. Asking them to slide over frees up a lot of space.

Station cast members do not know the exact number of people that can fit into the available space, so we have no choice but to just open the gates. It causes less problems to let guests have the option to try and board, than to deny them that option at all.

You do have a valid point. The pilot would have no clue about the amount of "cargo" (as I call it) he is carrying. I did not have an issue with the "please slide over" issue either. The monorail announcement doesn't do enough justice about it unfortunately. However, just having someone at the station look inside the monorail as it goes by could help. When we watch the monorail go by, I am very observant of the amount of people in each car that goes by. Something like this could greatly reduce the odds involving the overcrowding issue during the busy times.