danv3
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You'll probably have a 9:15 am for Captain EO and a 8:40 pm for the O Canada. Enjoy!
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You'll probably have a 9:15 am for Captain EO and a 8:40 pm for the O Canada. Enjoy!
doctornick
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I'm expecting that they will replace the existing FP machines with terminals that you can use to access/update FP+ reservations. I'd be shocked if the only place you could do it (without your own device) were to be Guest Relations.
doctornick
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This, I suspect, is true. I know a number of inexperienced Disney goers who, after I talked to them after their trips, clearly did not use FP to anywhere near its potential. I think a lot of those people are going to be happy with this system because they'll have FP+ and use them and feel they are "skipping the line" -- for free! -- and this will provide some warm fuzzies. And they won't realize/care that they are waiting longer for HM due to FP+, while they play with those interactive stuff in the queue.
I'm not suggesting this is good or bad, but the complaints about FP+ on boards like this is heavily slanted by people who know/understand/optimally utilize the current system. And that's not necessarily the typical WDW guest.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
So your argument is that a system more complex than the current system will be better for the "casual guest". You realize how crazy that is, right?
AstroBestSonic
Member
Keeping the number of Fastpasses at 3 in my opinion would be a good and a bad thing. It will spread people out more but in a negative way not letting you get what you want. I'll have to see the system in place myself to make a final opinion. I'm actually a bit confused from reading all of this.
Gabe1
Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
This has actually been corrected. You can use tickets to get unlimited paper fastpasses as well as the mymagic+ fastpasses at least for this testing period.
1. Any three
2.you could plan them any time, either before or the day your going to the park
3. Yes, for the most part, a small amount of times were restricted for certain rides.
4. 1 hour
5. No, never.
Captain Chaos
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Remember, disney206313 is only TESTING the program... This is not implemented.. Wait til it is... Wait till tens of thousands are booking FP+ 60 days out, and no FP+ left for the big rides... Then we shall see how easy and awesome this is... May seem that way now since Disney is MAKING it easy for the testers to, you know TEST this God forsaken waste of cash... Once this goes live, all holy hell is going to break loose.. Thank heavens for Universal... Screw WDW...
pjammer
Active Member
Having never used the system it's unfair to call it more complex. From my understanding FP+ is part of your resort reservation so you will be pre-engaged to make selections. You choose the rides and Disney gives you a schedule based on things that you have told Disney you are going to do, like dining reservations. If you don't like it and you are a super planner then you can adjust it to fit your needs. Now the "casual guest" staying at a Disney resort will have a better chance to see headliners that THEY said they wanted to see using FP because super users aren't getting multiple FPs for rides that sometimes they may or may not use because the return window that is 4 hours out doesn't work for them but they grab them anyways just in case. Because you know your return window before you get the park you can plan your day better.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
The casual guest doesn't know the headliner attractions in the first place. Do you think for one minute Disney is going to point the uninformed to the highest demand attractions in the park if they don't ask for it. Did you play around with the system at all during any of the tests. They had an option to essentially let Disney pick your day for you and it was a way for them to give you Fastpasses to the attractions that others weren't pushing for.
They're still relying on the ignorance, they're just trying to sell it as a magical vacation.
It is possible that the reason that you can't understand how there could be positives is because your assumptions about how it will work are incorrect.
FP+ would not be more complex than the current system. It is far less complex, in fact. There is no racing around the park to collect FPs and then return at the specified time. Instead, newbies will simply be issued a FP set. They can either use the FPs as assigned, or trade any of the for something more to their liking. That's a darn simple system, from a newbie's point of view.
Isn't there a Universal forum that would please you?
lazyboy97o
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Care to share a specific?
bubbles1812
Well-Known Member
No offense but imagine you just said all you just said to a first one WDW attendee. It sounds like gobbledygook. So yeah... Not a complex over detailed system at all. (And remember this is only one component of the system).
Each of the FP+ complaints list in that post?
pjammer
Active Member
Once again, never having used the system you are making assumptions. YOU choose what rides or whatever are important to YOU. This includes parades, fireworks, and character M&G. A lot of ppl reserve dining for the M&G's just to ensure they can get the experience with that character without waiting in line. But if you where guaranteed to meet the Princess at town hall then you wouldn't need that princess dinning at MK or Epcot. And if we take MK for an example, you know you want to ride HM and PotC because they are iconic attractions. Your family doesn't meet border requirements at others then you book one of those rides to make sure that you see them. Also never working at Disney, you don't see how many FPs are wasted because ppl don't know about rider switch and use it to it's full advantage. Like for a 5 person family, mom and daughter get FP for Soarin' and dad and son get FP for TT because the other child is is to small to ride. Most ppl don't do that because they don't understand the system and a wasted FP for other casual guest are gone b/c other ppl that don't understand the system have took them now a fam of 3 can't ride TT or Soarin because the FP available have been wasted on the rider switch situation. But instead of using 2 FP for TT and Soarin, they use one for TT and one for Nemo and arrive at RD for Soarin' with a smaller wait they have done what they want to do. Instead of riding Nemo when the line are long but they don't know that if they come back in the afternoon the wait will be smaller. Even going back to the MK example a 5 minute wait for HM during it highest waits is better than a 30 minute wait. If you don't research it then you don't know when to go.
Will SB line's be longer for non current FP be longer? Probably. But it will be easy for US to figure out when to go on those rides. It's a change. PPL have been complaining about the old FP system and they will complain about the new one.
WE have been enough times to know when to hit things up but most ppl don't and you can compare by looking at this board and the regular poster to the disboards. And some of those poster are still confused by the FP system. The new system from what I understand will make sure that resort guest pre-select their choice ahead of time and know what they can ride with a FP. And if you are an uber planner and can't get a FP for TSM then you know you can't FPs it so you should ride it at RD or last thing at night.
As far as how it will work for APs not staying at a resort I'm not sure, but if you arrived at Epcot or Hollywood after 2pm you wouldn't be getting a FP for the headliners (TSM, TT, or Soarin) anyways. So. if you wanted to hear an educated statement for the other side, I decided to provide. Once we can figure out how to use it best then ppl will be more happy, but the fact that we have to learn a new system to the optimal advantage is frustrating.
pjammer
Active Member
Ohh, it sounds complex if you make a resort reservation and then Disney ask you what you want to see. Then they try to guarantee that you will see it.
I don't regularly read these forums but just made it through this thread and was surprised at the negativity. I, for one, am excited to try FP+...and here's why.
My last trip to WDW was a 10-day trip with my family (wife, 3 daughters 7, 4, 2) as well as 5 other members of the extended family (including a first timer). I was the trip planner and was tasked with coming up with the touring plan. I know the parks like the back of my hands (former CM) but we only visit approx 1x every 2 years (we're Northwesterners).
My single biggest frustration planning and executing the trip was that I ran out of mornings! I planned out the days and (especially with young kids) found our entire plan revolved around the mornings. There were a number things that to minimize lines we either had to get FPs for first thing in the AM (TSM, Soarin', Everest, TT, the "mountains," etc) along with the non-FP things that are best done in the AMs (meet characters, Dumbo (old one), safari, etc). That's not to mention the water parks (get there early!) and the joys of dealing with different ages (dumbo for 2 year old, Space for the 6 year old). Oh, and the 2 year old was going back for naps mid-day.
I literally planned the entire trip around mornings...and despite 10 days still missed some things! This was due to not having enough mornings (we, for example, never saw Rapunzel...too many morning priorities and we were not going to wait an hour later in the day) and the challenges of children...we were tracking to our TSM morning until we had the emergency potty stop, the spilled chocolate milk at breakfast, and the trip/skinned knee on the way to the Studios. We got to the Studios 45 min late which meant TSM stand-by was too long, our FPs were for nap time, and the 6 year old's rides on ToT and RnRC were later than planned.
I was exhausted from being the "runner," the family was split up a lot (I know we're standing here to ride attraction X, but the 4 of us have FPs for Y so we'll meet you later...can't let them expire!), not to mention the one time I forgot to give the "nap team" their tickets back (I was the runner) and we then had to plan on meeting back at the gate later to give tickets back.
All that to say, I would KILL to know I could guarantee my kids that they could do some of their favorite things at more convenient times without me running around trying to organize FPs...and if we're running late, I could make changes on my phone. To be honest, I'll easily trade a little more standby waiting if it meant the entire trip was not planned around FP collections in the mornings (and the ability to sleep in a bit)! But that's just me...and I haven't tried it yet.
I know this is heresy, but we just got back from 5 days at DL/DCA last month. If I knew we had pre-determined, guaranteed times to ride RSRs...sold! I had some exhausted kiddos two of the mornings that we had DCA early entry and we had to get up, dressed, breakfast, etc just to ride without waiting an hour!
All that to say, can't wait to give it a try! Stepping off my lonely soapbox...let the hate continue...
My last trip to WDW was a 10-day trip with my family (wife, 3 daughters 7, 4, 2) as well as 5 other members of the extended family (including a first timer). I was the trip planner and was tasked with coming up with the touring plan. I know the parks like the back of my hands (former CM) but we only visit approx 1x every 2 years (we're Northwesterners).
My single biggest frustration planning and executing the trip was that I ran out of mornings! I planned out the days and (especially with young kids) found our entire plan revolved around the mornings. There were a number things that to minimize lines we either had to get FPs for first thing in the AM (TSM, Soarin', Everest, TT, the "mountains," etc) along with the non-FP things that are best done in the AMs (meet characters, Dumbo (old one), safari, etc). That's not to mention the water parks (get there early!) and the joys of dealing with different ages (dumbo for 2 year old, Space for the 6 year old). Oh, and the 2 year old was going back for naps mid-day.
I literally planned the entire trip around mornings...and despite 10 days still missed some things! This was due to not having enough mornings (we, for example, never saw Rapunzel...too many morning priorities and we were not going to wait an hour later in the day) and the challenges of children...we were tracking to our TSM morning until we had the emergency potty stop, the spilled chocolate milk at breakfast, and the trip/skinned knee on the way to the Studios. We got to the Studios 45 min late which meant TSM stand-by was too long, our FPs were for nap time, and the 6 year old's rides on ToT and RnRC were later than planned.
I was exhausted from being the "runner," the family was split up a lot (I know we're standing here to ride attraction X, but the 4 of us have FPs for Y so we'll meet you later...can't let them expire!), not to mention the one time I forgot to give the "nap team" their tickets back (I was the runner) and we then had to plan on meeting back at the gate later to give tickets back.
All that to say, I would KILL to know I could guarantee my kids that they could do some of their favorite things at more convenient times without me running around trying to organize FPs...and if we're running late, I could make changes on my phone. To be honest, I'll easily trade a little more standby waiting if it meant the entire trip was not planned around FP collections in the mornings (and the ability to sleep in a bit)! But that's just me...and I haven't tried it yet.
I know this is heresy, but we just got back from 5 days at DL/DCA last month. If I knew we had pre-determined, guaranteed times to ride RSRs...sold! I had some exhausted kiddos two of the mornings that we had DCA early entry and we had to get up, dressed, breakfast, etc just to ride without waiting an hour!
All that to say, can't wait to give it a try! Stepping off my lonely soapbox...let the hate continue...