My magic+ testing report

Disneyfan1981

Active Member
It's nice to read someone actually going through it and enjoying it but I still wonder about how it will work when the masses are trying to hop on their cell phones to change FP+ and the massive hit that the service will take for just making a call or sending a text at the same time.

I still think this was made too complicated for the masses, my wife and I are serious planners and since we travel across country to visit the advance stuff isn't a big deal but I can imagine my folks or even my brother who is low-tech by choice having a massive headache or it, or transferring it to me (the headache) because I'll have to do it for them.
 

ddrongowski

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It's nice to read someone actually going through it and enjoying it but I still wonder about how it will work when the masses are trying to hop on their cell phones to change FP+ and the massive hit that the service will take for just making a call or sending a text at the same time.

I still think this was made too complicated for the masses, my wife and I are serious planners and since we travel across country to visit the advance stuff isn't a big deal but I can imagine my folks or even my brother who is low-tech by choice having a massive headache or it, or transferring it to me (the headache) because I'll have to do it for them.
And Disney cares about your headache? You have $'s right? That's what they care about.;)
 

ddrongowski

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This whole FP+ discussion got me mussing about old posts. There was a discussion about WDW doing a RFID chip for the all you can drink cups at the resorts. Did it fail, work, what? Just wondering as it reminds me of this FP+ discussions. Just looking to see who was right and who was wrong in that thread.
 

Disneyfan1981

Active Member
I didn't even think of that. We usually blow through our cell batteries by midday with our little ones, I can't imagine how it'd be on their first trip to WDW. Well…I guess I could just remember their firsts instead of snapping a pic or go out and buy a separate camera...
 

ddrongowski

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Or...when the phone batteries die from roaming and taking pictures and you have to stop and either charge them or stand in line at a kiosk to check or change a reservation.
Glad you mention this, I will be opening a stand outside the parks that sell charged batteries for cell phones. Or if you prefer a solar panel with appropriate cable for you phone, will be rentable.
 

sunshine

Member
The biggest things which will affect how I visit Disney: 1) The 3 fastpass per day limit 2) Fastpasses in one park only 3) Inability to re-fastpass the same ride 4) Pre-set daily (sometimes hourly) schedules for the entire trip. Edited to add one more: 5) possible inability to choose my preferred rides for the 3 fastpasses I'm allowed, due to Disney's "ride groupings" (i.e., choose one ride from column A, one ride from column B, one ride from column C... even if I'm only interested in column A).

Being able to sleep in and still fastpass Toy Story Mania will be a big positive, but it comes with more negatives for me personally (see above list) in terms of my overall day. I'm keeping an open mind, though.

If you reserve 3 fastpasses in advance... can you obtain more fastpasses on the day of your visit while you're in the park? Or is it 3 and done? And if you can obtain more same-day, could you possibly get a second fastpass for a ride you've already fastpassed via advance reservation? (I know I'm jumping the gun by asking questions before anything's official, but I'm just curious if I missed this.)
 

bubbles1812

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The biggest things which will affect how I visit Disney: 1) The 3 fastpass per day limit 2) Fastpasses in one park only 3) Inability to re-fastpass the same ride 4) Pre-set daily (sometimes hourly) schedules for the entire trip.

Being able to sleep in and still fastpass Toy Story Mania will be a big positive, but it comes with more negatives for me personally (see above list) in terms of my overall day. I'm keeping an open mind, though.

If you reserve 3 fastpasses in advance... can you obtain more fastpasses on the day of your visit while you're in the park? Or is it 3 and done? And if you can obtain more same-day, could you possibly get a second fastpass for a ride you've already fastpassed via advance reservation? (I know I'm jumping the gun by asking questions before anything's official, but I'm just curious if I missed this.)
3 and done when the whole system is implemented. Regular FP will go bye bye... Again, once the whole shebang is up and running. It would appear they are anywhere from a few months to a year before this happens.

And I think, from what I understand, their plan once testing is complete is to essentially slowly get people into this while both systems are still going. If you opt for MM+, no regular FP for you even if it still has a presence in the park. Ergo, I won't do MM+ as long as possible (ie until regular FP officially goes away)
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
This whole FP+ discussion got me mussing about old posts. There was a discussion about WDW doing a RFID chip for the all you can drink cups at the resorts. Did it fail, work, what? Just wondering as it reminds me of this FP+ discussions. Just looking to see who was right and who was wrong in that thread.

Interesting analogy. Chipped cups to stop free beverage dipping. RFID bands to stop misuse of admission tickets? Does make you wonder what the original imagineering thought process was for RFID bands/cards before Disney tacked on 'all this.'

Or...when the phone batteries die from roaming and taking pictures and you have to stop and either charge them or stand in line at a kiosk to check or change a reservation.

And will guests miss that window to change their FP+ or ADR when they have to truck to the kiosk located on Main Street and stand in line to use a Kiosk cause guests are all having WiFi/Crashing Phone issues?

My DS has quickly learned to turn his phone off at work during moderate to busy times or his iPhone is dead when he goes to use it. Guests having to turn off phone is kinda bad PR...turn off your phone because Disney is going to kill your battery life, remember to go back to yesteryear and carry a camera as a back up to your iPhone.
It's nice to read someone actually going through it and enjoying it but I still wonder about how it will work when the masses are trying to hop on their cell phones to change FP+ and the massive hit that the service will take for just making a call or sending a text at the same time.

I still think this was made too complicated for the masses, my wife and I are serious planners and since we travel across country to visit the advance stuff isn't a big deal but I can imagine my folks or even my brother who is low-tech by choice having a massive headache or it, or transferring it to me (the headache) because I'll have to do it for them.

My children are adults now and one a CM. As the Mom of small children and working full time it was hard enough to plan, pack, travel, ADRs. My kids were busy kids. Our annual 2 week trip to Disney, when we finally got there was supposed to be chill time, relax from schedules, let our kids take turns on what we'd do next.
Family bonding. This system seems to be exactly what we as a family needed to vacation from, not planning on steroids. The last thing I would have wanted my kids to fight about is who gets the blue magic band.

My folks will not do FP+ they have enough issues with the DVD player, email and accepting a call on their cell instead of hitting ignore. So either I will have to plan their entire trips or they have come to the end of their Disney days as it is too much for them. My Dad a retired veteran was a number in his day as his dog tags attested. Explaining he must wear a band in the future to be able to do the things he use to without it, well lets say didn't go over well.

Me<----------I think they rolled out way to many components for the Magic Band at once.
 

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Disneyfan1981

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In talking this over with my wife one thing she brought up (which I'm sure has been brought up before) is the logistics of having two young kids needing these. I'm sure getting them to wear them won't be an issue especially when you can upgrade them to princesses or whatever but I have a feeling that they'll lose them left and right. I'm sure things can/will change in a couple of years when we actually head on over there but as right now they lose hats and hair bows and plastic bracelets within a matter of minutes.
 

fillerup

Well-Known Member
AP holders could kill FP+ if they wanted. I have a hard time believing that AP holders go to WDW every day. Now with that in mind, I just read on the MM+ etc details page "AP holders will have the same FASTPASS+ rules as resort guests, with 60 days out reservations, for one park only per day, and three selections per day." So if AP holders reserved FP+'s for everyday, even ones when they are not there, then FP+'s would have to be extremely rare. Not that AP holders are going to do this, but it is wrench that could damage the cogs of the FP+ system.

Had this exact conversation with a bunch of local AP'ers waiting for a concert at Epcot last week.
 

Goofnut1980

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I only have one question... (I didn't read all 11 pages) Why would we need to pay for park hoppers???

When I did the FP+ card test, I spread the tickets all over the day... We wasted a few fast passes because we park hopped to other parks to finish the day/dinner reservations.
 

jencor

Active Member
I did read all 11 pages and I know no more then what I knew before hand. They ran a test, but the test was for 3 fast passes for any rides plus all the paper fast passes you want. What is the test, to see if the wrist bands work? We are going in the beginning of December and I am even more confused about the trip. We already have passes from 10 day non expiration tickets and stay at a friends house, so this fast pass thing has me concerned on what will happen to the whole experience. Probably just spend two days at DW and a couple up at US and SW.
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
The biggest things which will affect how I visit Disney: 1) The 3 fastpass per day limit 2) Fastpasses in one park only 3) Inability to re-fastpass the same ride 4) Pre-set daily (sometimes hourly) schedules for the entire trip. Edited to add one more: 5) possible inability to choose my preferred rides for the 3 fastpasses I'm allowed, due to Disney's "ride groupings" (i.e., choose one ride from column A, one ride from column B, one ride from column C... even if I'm only interested in column A).

Being able to sleep in and still fastpass Toy Story Mania will be a big positive, but it comes with more negatives for me personally (see above list) in terms of my overall day. I'm keeping an open mind, though.

If you reserve 3 fastpasses in advance... can you obtain more fastpasses on the day of your visit while you're in the park? Or is it 3 and done? And if you can obtain more same-day, could you possibly get a second fastpass for a ride you've already fastpassed via advance reservation? (I know I'm jumping the gun by asking questions before anything's official, but I'm just curious if I missed this.)


TSMM FP is the only positive. However, if the system randomly assigns and I am staying off property I may get a TSMM FP+ for 855pm - and forbid if the system gives out too many and it says sorry no more FP remaining for this day, please select another day - I will be livid!

From my understanding it is 3 FP+ for member of your party - no more than that. Paper FP are being eliminated. If you want to change your FP+ options you can do so on MM+ or a kiosk at GR.
 

dadddio

Well-Known Member
Now imagine telling that to someone... You've oversimplified it to the point a newbie wouldn't understand how to use the system. What you said doesn't remotely explain how it works. It's going to take a lot of explanation. I think you think I'm trying to be a snarky. I'm actually not. But you've proved my point. A simple explanation can't really be given because the system is now quite complex. You didnt explain it. And again, a reminder that FP+ is just one component.
But you don't have to explain all of Disney in thirty seconds. I can certainly fully explain what we know about FP+ in that amount of time. I have little doubt that once it is rolled out we will be able to explain the mechanics of obtaining and changing FPs in that amount of time, also.
 

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