My local Water Park is now bigger then Typhoon Lagoon

MarkTwain

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In fairness, it's somewhat understandable that the number of attractions Typhoon Lagoon is limited. If you're at the park, you'll notice that all of the slides (except Crush'n'Gusher) stem from the sculpted mountain at the middle of the park, which was there when the park opened. To add more attractions would mean either reconfiguring the mountain (assuming there's room in there for another slide to begin with) or building a new one. Or they can do like Crush'n'Gusher and not theme it to the same extent. So for Disney, building a new slide isn't as simple as throwing up some steel and running a big pink plastic tube slide across it.
 

mergatroid

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I disagree, I feel all of Disney's Parks should get high priority. Why put the water parks on the back burner?? They all should be held to Disney's high standards.

To be fair they both get a refurb every year and I've never noticed anything look shoddy there in all my visits. Even stranger when you conside I always go in Sept/Oct which is always a mnimum of 10-11 months since the last refurbishment! I can't see Disney being too worried about not having as many slides as other waterparks as I believe their intention was always to have the most imaginatively themed water parks and they still do.
 

cheezbat

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To be fair they both get a refurb every year and I've never noticed anything look shoddy there in all my visits. Even stranger when you conside I always go in Sept/Oct which is always a mnimum of 10-11 months since the last refurbishment! I can't see Disney being too worried about not having as many slides as other waterparks as I believe their intention was always to have the most imaginatively themed water parks and they still do.

The sad thing is its almost like they built them and figured, "good enough." why add more? There are so many cool new waterslide, river, and surfing attractions that have been created in the past decade, and so much they could do to increase the size of the park as well as decrease long wait times.
 

mergatroid

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The sad thing is its almost like they built them and figured, "good enough." why add more? There are so many cool new waterslide, river, and surfing attractions that have been created in the past decade, and so much they could do to increase the size of the park as well as decrease long wait times.

True but let's not forget they added (slush & gusher?) to TL not too long ago and I would guess BB will get similar in the next few years. I think for Disney it's a lot harder and expensive to modify their parks than say Wet n Wild is due to theming. At Wet n Wild for imstance they can just knock down an existing slide and replace it with another without the worry of how will it look alongside the others, Disney don't really have that luxury if they want to maintain the attractiveness of their parks. I'd hazard a guess that 'theming' any of Wet n Wilds slides would at least double the cost for Disney if not treble it. I agree that size could be increased but once again it wouldn't be cheap and I'd personally rather have nothing new than a few unthemed slides tacked onto the back of BB.

I'm sure as you say the parks would be better with more space and slides, but whether the costs involved would be worth it to Disney is unfortunately a different story. The accountants at Disney probably ask themselves "would the size increase create bigger crowds or just distribute the current levels", if it's the latter then they unfortunately probably think "why bother, it's still pulling them in".
 

cheezbat

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True but let's not forget they added (slush & gusher?) to TL not too long ago and I would guess BB will get similar in the next few years. I think for Disney it's a lot harder and expensive to modify their parks than say Wet n Wild is due to theming. At Wet n Wild for imstance they can just knock down an existing slide and replace it with another without the worry of how will it look alongside the others, Disney don't really have that luxury if they want to maintain the attractiveness of their parks. I'd hazard a guess that 'theming' any of Wet n Wilds slides would at least double the cost for Disney if not treble it. I agree that size could be increased but once again it wouldn't be cheap and I'd personally rather have nothing new than a few unthemed slides tacked onto the back of BB.

I'm sure as you say the parks would be better with more space and slides, but whether the costs involved would be worth it to Disney is unfortunately a different story. The accountants at Disney probably ask themselves "would the size increase create bigger crowds or just distribute the current levels", if it's the latter then they unfortunately probably think "why bother, it's still pulling them in".

They added the Crush N Gusher to Typhoon in 2005...

While I totally get what you're saying, I think it would be very foolish if the Imagineers built the waterparks without any expansion possibilities in mind. They had to know that over time things would either be replaced or new things would need to be added to keep the parks fresh.

Wet N Wild is owned by Universal, but it was built by George Millay...NOT Universal, so obviously Uni just kept going with adding slides to existing towers instead of starting from scratch. While that is true, I do give them props for what they've done to renovate what is there. The Lazy River, Wavepool, the Black Hole, and the new Blastaway Beach look so much better than what was there before Universals purchase. On top of that, they've added neat themed attractions too...Disco H2O, Brain Wash, the Storm...very cool.
 

mergatroid

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They added the Crush N Gusher to Typhoon in 2005...

While I totally get what you're saying, I think it would be very foolish if the Imagineers built the waterparks without any expansion possibilities in mind. They had to know that over time things would either be replaced or new things would need to be added to keep the parks fresh.

Wet N Wild is owned by Universal, but it was built by George Millay...NOT Universal, so obviously Uni just kept going with adding slides to existing towers instead of starting from scratch. While that is true, I do give them props for what they've done to renovate what is there. The Lazy River, Wavepool, the Black Hole, and the new Blastaway Beach look so much better than what was there before Universals purchase. On top of that, they've added neat themed attractions too...Disco H2O, Brain Wash, the Storm...very cool.

Let's hope you're right about potential plans to improve the parks my friend, as happy as I am with them I agree they could be improved. I've not done Wet n Wild for years other than driving past it most visits, but after your review I may try it again at some stage.
 

cheezbat

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Let's hope you're right about potential plans to improve the parks my friend, as happy as I am with them I agree they could be improved. I've not done Wet n Wild for years other than driving past it most visits, but after your review I may try it again at some stage.

Wet N Wild has definitely gotten better from where it once was...but I'm more excited to see what Universal is going to do with their own waterpark on site...
 

WEDway1975

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53Herbie

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I live close to Schlitterbahn in Texas, which is voted the best water park in America on a regular basis. I would still rather go to a Disney water park. The local water parks are too Mom & Pop for me. Disney got it's idea for Crush & Gusher from Schlitterbahn and then placed in a more attractive park.
 

THEMEPARKPIONEER

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Original Poster
I'm in complete agreement with you.

Do you realize how much cheaper water rides are than other attractions? $100 million for Mission Space or The Little Mermaid...try less than $5 million for the Crush N Gusher. WAY cheaper and worth investing in. Heck, they could add FLE style waterpark expansions to both parks for $25 million!

They could do to major expansions and really put the parks in the spotlight but I hope that doesn't happen. I wouldn't want big crowds at Typhoon Lagoon. I rather chill out in Typhoon Lagoons wave pool and lazy river and save the thrill rides for a rainy back home :).
 

cheezbat

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I live close to Schlitterbahn in Texas, which is voted the best water park in America on a regular basis. I would still rather go to a Disney water park. The local water parks are too Mom & Pop for me. Disney got it's idea for Crush & Gusher from Schlitterbahn and then placed in a more attractive park.

Schlitterbahn is a decent park, but it didn't blow me away. I actually really hated the inconvenience of having to take trams between the sections of the park. Very chaotic. Aside from that, the rides in the Blastenoff section were good...and Dragons Revenge was a pretty sweet re-theme to the original blaster.

I'd take the Disney waterparks over that too...but not over parks like Noah's Ark, Water World, or Splashin' Safari.
 

Jimmy Thick

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I'd take the Disney waterparks over that too...but not over parks like Noah's Ark, Water World, or Splashin' Safari.

I don't know about the other parks, but Noah's Ark can get pretty grubby at times. plus you will wait 30-60 minutes to ride a 60 second attraction. Noah's Ark is the only place I have ever seen where the wait time is completely accurate.


Jimmy Thick- Lots of stuff there, but its....Missing something...
 

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