My guest assistance card didn't assist me much for some reason

mergatroid

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Firstly this isn't a negative post or a huge complaint and it's definitely not a go at those people who use scooters! I have dystonia which effects my walking, I tire and my walking can be a bit ackward and uncomfortable at times but I choose to walk around the parks and don't use a wheelchair except sometimes at the airport due to the time restraints in walking long distances. Anyhow enough about that and to why I'm posting this. Last year I visited Fantasmic as usual and after asking a cast member if I could use the handicapped seating at the back (as I always do with no problem) he quizzed me as to where my 'Guest Assistance Card' was. I explained I had never had one or been asked and he ummed and ahhed a bit before telling me to wait and left me while he spoke to a colleague. He soon returned and politely told me that I could sit there but in future I must have a 'Guest Assistance Card' to do so, so I thanked him and sat down a bit confused. That was the last day of our holiday and I left and we returned this year.

So we arrived this year for our holiday a few weeks ago and upon entering the Magic Kingdom we went in Guest Relations to obtain a 'GAC'. I felt a bit embarrassed asking for one as I don't really feel the need for assistance other than to sometimes have a seat for some of the shows without the need to climb stairs with jostling crowds (can be quite bad at the end of shows especially). The cast member was very nice and seemed confused saying the 'GAC' didn't apply to shows and was only used to get into certain rides without queueing as long using a special entrance on certain attractions. She did advise me to take one though incase my leg was bad and the lines were long and kindly took on out and wrote my name and the dates of our stay on it.

On one day my leg was particularly bad and we arrived at the Haunted Mansion. The card states 'PLEASE PRESENT THIS CARD TO THE GREETER OR FIRST HOST OR HOSTESS YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH AT EACH ATTRACTION' which we did and were told to head to the FP entrance. We did that and after queuing several minutes and meeting the next cast member at FP and showing and explaining we had a 'GAC' I was told that I would have to join the normal line as the queue was short. It then took 30 minutes or so of queuing in the normal line to ride. To make matters more confusing on exiting the ride we were passed by two people entering through the exit who appeared to have similar walking difficulties to myself? I didn't let it ruin my day as if the 'GAC's didn't exist I'd be no worse off but I wondered what length the queue must be or what condition you have (or cast member is on duty) to warrant using them?

I decided not to bother with it for the next 2 and a half weeks and on one of our last few days we were entering Buzz Lightyear and as my wife passed me our FP's for the attraction from her bag my 'GAC' fell from it on the floor. As she picked it up we were told by the cast member we could have used that instead of the FP's. I thought great if my legs bad in future trips I'll do that on FP attractions however looking at the card it states 'At attractions offering Disney's FASTPASS service, Guests should obtain a Disney's FASTPASS return ticket'. I only read this again after leavig the park so didn't query it then?

My last query was regarding a day at Hollywood Studios where I was declined a seat on the first two rows (with the handicapped symbol on and ironically the reason for me being instructed to request a 'GAC' in the first place) at LMA. My knee was bad and when we arrived the 3rd to 9th rows were full so I explained to the young cast member I had a problem and could I use the front seating. He said could I please use the stairs instead if possible with no explanation why (these seats were practically empty). As I struggled up the stairs another cast member ran over and offered me a front row seat. I explained why I was using the stairs and they apologised and said that shouldn't have happened. I asked if in future I should show my 'GAC' at shows to be told that no it's only for attractions.

Now I don't want to criticise and I think it's wonderful that Disney think of guests with health conditions. We had a fantastic three weeks holiday and will be returning next year but obviously there appeared to be a few issues with the use of my 'GAC'. My questions are do I need a 'GAC' for shows, can I use it instead of a FP and how long does the queue have to be at the HM to use it? And please let's not turn it into a 'who should use scooter' thread :rolleyes:
 

bubbles1812

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I am not one that knows the GACs too well so I can't answer your questions but I just wanted to say 1) I am glad you had a great trip! but 2) I am so sorry that you had such a confusing time in regards to the GAC. That doesn't sound fun at all. Sounds like a few CMs need some more training (not that that's there fault...that's on their supervisors).
 

mergatroid

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I am not one that knows the GACs too well so I can't answer your questions but I just wanted to say 1) I am glad you had a great trip! but 2) I am so sorry that you had such a confusing time in regards to the GAC. That doesn't sound fun at all. Sounds like a few CMs need some more training (not that that's there fault...that's on their supervisors).

Thanks anyway and yes we loved our trip.

Sorry can't answer your question mergatroid, but wanted to say welcome back, glad was trip was enjoyable other than this problem. I hope someone wise replies!! :)

Hello my friends, hope you both enjoyed your trip too? Got back last Friday, gutted we missed the Fantasyland soft opening today. Ah well next October it will be then.
 

dave&di

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Thanks anyway and yes we loved our trip.



Hello my friends, hope you both enjoyed your trip too? Got back last Friday, gutted we missed the Fantasyland soft opening today. Ah well next October it will be then.
Loved it thanks! Today at Fantasyland must have been amazing, we will see it next Sept! At least we got a preview of Enchanted tales with belle!!!!
 

mamamouse

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I get a card for my daughter every trip ,and i've never experienced that.they are usually very good and very accomodating,we used it at Haunted Mansion recently too and were led in through the exit,because the fastpass line wasn't open. I'm sorry that you had this happen it usually isnt this way and The cm's at The Nemo Show are a great help eventhough it's not meant for shows they have always offered us an alternate entrance .
 

mamamouse

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i didn't know about it until my youngest had a seizure at Magic Kingdom,and I was talking to the Cm helping me with her about these seizures and they told me about it.Now I get it for her everytime
 

Rob562

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My sister has a bad knee. Sometimes she wears a brace on her leg, sometimes she goes without. Either way, she avoids stairs as much as possible. (She can do them, it just takes her a long time)

When she chaperoned her daughter's high school band trip, I told her to go to Guest Relations at the first park they went to and talk to the CMs about her issue with stairs. They gave her a GAC with the "alternate entrance" stamp on it. It basically allowed her to bypass any stairs that she might encounter in queues (like Splash, TSMM, Dinosaur).

She also had no problem using it to sit in the back-row handicap sections of Fantasmic (since going anywhere else in the amphitheater requires stairs) and Indy.

-Rob
 

mergatroid

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I get a card for my daughter every trip ,and i've never experienced that.they are usually very good and very accomodating,we used it at Haunted Mansion recently too and were led in through the exit,because the fastpass line wasn't open. I'm sorry that you had this happen it usually isnt this way and The cm's at The Nemo Show are a great help eventhough it's not meant for shows they have always offered us an alternate entrance .

That's great, really pleased that it's worked out beneficial to your family and proof it's a good idea. It''s strange that for me at the Haunted Mansion I was turned away from the FP line let alone allowed to use the exit route?

My sister has a bad knee. Sometimes she wears a brace on her leg, sometimes she goes without. Either way, she avoids stairs as much as possible. (She can do them, it just takes her a long time)

When she chaperoned her daughter's high school band trip, I told her to go to Guest Relations at the first park they went to and talk to the CMs about her issue with stairs. They gave her a GAC with the "alternate entrance" stamp on it. It basically allowed her to bypass any stairs that she might encounter in queues (like Splash, TSMM, Dinosaur).

She also had no problem using it to sit in the back-row handicap sections of Fantasmic (since going anywhere else in the amphitheater requires stairs) and Indy.

-Rob

Again another positive example of why this is a good thing.

Wow I am a disabled vet with a walking disability and I have always just grimmaced through the lines. Thanks for posting this or I would have never known about the GAC. Out of all the times I have been to WDW no cast memeber has ever mentioned the Card, good to know.
God Bless

Good luck my friend, ask for it at Guest Relations in the park.
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
GAC cards aren't something that are instilled into CMs' brains like they should be. Hopefully we'll be updating the system soon. Folks need to be trained to use 'em better, on both a guest and CM level.
 

wilkeliza

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If fastpasses are available you are suppose to use those instead of you GAC card. Now if they aren't available you can use the alternate entrance of that ride.

They are not guaranteed to be a shorter wait at all. Sometimes if you have an alternate entrance gac but you do not have a wheelchair or stroller or there are no stairs they will make you use the regular queue. It all depends on what type of GAC you have. Also GAC cards do not work for fireworks viewing and shows. Sometimes a cast member will be nice and let you into them with one but if there is a wheelchair on the seat it is technically seating for wheelchairs and their party members. However the difference I have seen is the "reserved" seat tags at FoTLK. GAC cards are a tricky little thing because if you play by the books it works one way but if a CM decides to go rogue it can make it appear that everyone is not doing their job.
 

mergatroid

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Original Poster
If fastpasses are available you are suppose to use those instead of you GAC card. Now if they aren't available you can use the alternate entrance of that ride.

They are not guaranteed to be a shorter wait at all. Sometimes if you have an alternate entrance gac but you do not have a wheelchair or stroller or there are no stairs they will make you use the regular queue. It all depends on what type of GAC you have. Also GAC cards do not work for fireworks viewing and shows. Sometimes a cast member will be nice and let you into them with one but if there is a wheelchair on the seat it is technically seating for wheelchairs and their party members. However the difference I have seen is the "reserved" seat tags at FoTLK. GAC cards are a tricky little thing because if you play by the books it works one way but if a CM decides to go rogue it can make it appear that everyone is not doing their job.

Fair enough though surprisingly this was never mentioned at Guest Relations when it was issued to me, nor at the entrance to the HM by a different cm and I was told the complete opposite by the cm at Buzz Lightyear? I may email Disney if I can find who to actually email not to complain but to establish exactly what the rules are regarding these 'GACs'. Perhaps the fact I don't use a wheelchair throws them a bit as they figure if I've walked all that way already then why can't I walk a bit further in a normal queue. In fairness this is probably true but as the lady who issued it to me said "Sometimes not standing for an extra 40 minutes in a queue if you're struggling can make a big difference".

Anyway if anyone can suggest who I can email at Disney for clarification it would be much appreciated.
 

amzgirl

Member
If fastpasses are available you are suppose to use those instead of you GAC card. Now if they aren't available you can use the alternate entrance of that ride.


That has never been told to us. If it was we would probably not be able to go to Disney much. My autistic son would have a fit if he was to go up to a ride and then leave again without riding. He would also not tolerate a long line without having a meltdown. That's the point of the guest assistance card for us. We would not have bought annual passes otherwise.
 

peter11435

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It should be noted that there are seven different types of GAC. Which one you were given is dependant on what needs you told GR you had. Each type of GAC may be treated differently depending on the attraction.
 

CaptainShortty

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Fair enough though surprisingly this was never mentioned at Guest Relations when it was issued to me, nor at the entrance to the HM by a different cm and I was told the complete opposite by the cm at Buzz Lightyear? I may email Disney if I can find who to actually email not to complain but to establish exactly what the rules are regarding these 'GACs'. Perhaps the fact I don't use a wheelchair throws them a bit as they figure if I've walked all that way already then why can't I walk a bit further in a normal queue. In fairness this is probably true but as the lady who issued it to me said "Sometimes not standing for an extra 40 minutes in a queue if you're struggling can make a big difference".

Anyway if anyone can suggest who I can email at Disney for clarification it would be much appreciated.

Disney Guest Communications are the people to e-mail. Be as specific as possible with the information you give to them when giving your story. If you know any of the CMs names that you talked to or the time that you were speaking with them, experiencing that attraction, that will help ensuring that the information gets passed to the correct people. I apologize that you had such a bad experience and not coming from a parks background I don't really have answers for you on the correct use of the GAC card. That being said, it does sound like some poor CM training on the GAC cards. The specifics of the letter you send to Guest Communications will help ensure that those CMs get the proper training without, likely, getting them in trouble.
 

Tip Top Club

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Unfortunately it's difficult to pin down exactly where the problem was. There are several different types of GAC cards, and every location has their own policies and procedures for them, as the infrastructure at say Jungle Cruise is very different than that of say Dinosaur. What MAY have happened at LMA was that the area was designed for wheelchairs, not just anyone with a GAC (Honestly I don't know it's just speculation). And when the other Cast Member saw it was empty anyway, offered you the seat out of politeness (which is probably what the first CM should have done, and was just being overly cautious, again, I don't know, just speculating.)

The best thing to do is exactly what the card instructs, just speak to the first cast member encountered. Hope that helps!
 

wilkeliza

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The issue with fastpasses an GAC is it is written on the back (maybe the bottoms not sure dot have one in front of me) that if fastpasses are available you must use that option given to you.

Also it is written on every GAC card that it is not a skip the line card. I'll look for a picture or get one at work tomorrow to show you. They should have done a better job of explaining them and giving CMs the tools needed to actually enforce the GAC rules but since we are powerless we typically cave under pressure.
 

Dad 2 M & M

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Wow I am a disabled vet with a walking disability and I have always just grimmaced through the lines. Thanks for posting this or I would have never known about the GAC. Out of all the times I have been to WDW no cast memeber has ever mentioned the Card, good to know.
God Bless
Thanks for your service to our country and I hope all is well.
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
Firstly this isn't a negative post or a huge complaint and it's definitely not a go at those people who use scooters! I have dystonia which effects my walking, I tire and my walking can be a bit ackward and uncomfortable at times but I choose to walk around the parks and don't use a wheelchair except sometimes at the airport due to the time restraints in walking long distances. Anyhow enough about that and to why I'm posting this. Last year I visited Fantasmic as usual and after asking a cast member if I could use the handicapped seating at the back (as I always do with no problem) he quizzed me as to where my 'Guest Assistance Card' was. I explained I had never had one or been asked and he ummed and ahhed a bit before telling me to wait and left me while he spoke to a colleague. He soon returned and politely told me that I could sit there but in future I must have a 'Guest Assistance Card' to do so, so I thanked him and sat down a bit confused. That was the last day of our holiday and I left and we returned this year.

So we arrived this year for our holiday a few weeks ago and upon entering the Magic Kingdom we went in Guest Relations to obtain a 'GAC'. I felt a bit embarrassed asking for one as I don't really feel the need for assistance other than to sometimes have a seat for some of the shows without the need to climb stairs with jostling crowds (can be quite bad at the end of shows especially). The cast member was very nice and seemed confused saying the 'GAC' didn't apply to shows and was only used to get into certain rides without queueing as long using a special entrance on certain attractions. She did advise me to take one though incase my leg was bad and the lines were long and kindly took on out and wrote my name and the dates of our stay on it.

On one day my leg was particularly bad and we arrived at the Haunted Mansion. The card states 'PLEASE PRESENT THIS CARD TO THE GREETER OR FIRST HOST OR HOSTESS YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH AT EACH ATTRACTION' which we did and were told to head to the FP entrance. We did that and after queuing several minutes and meeting the next cast member at FP and showing and explaining we had a 'GAC' I was told that I would have to join the normal line as the queue was short. It then took 30 minutes or so of queuing in the normal line to ride. To make matters more confusing on exiting the ride we were passed by two people entering through the exit who appeared to have similar walking difficulties to myself? I didn't let it ruin my day as if the 'GAC's didn't exist I'd be no worse off but I wondered what length the queue must be or what condition you have (or cast member is on duty) to warrant using them?

I decided not to bother with it for the next 2 and a half weeks and on one of our last few days we were entering Buzz Lightyear and as my wife passed me our FP's for the attraction from her bag my 'GAC' fell from it on the floor. As she picked it up we were told by the cast member we could have used that instead of the FP's. I thought great if my legs bad in future trips I'll do that on FP attractions however looking at the card it states 'At attractions offering Disney's FASTPASS service, Guests should obtain a Disney's FASTPASS return ticket'. I only read this again after leavig the park so didn't query it then?

My last query was regarding a day at Hollywood Studios where I was declined a seat on the first two rows (with the handicapped symbol on and ironically the reason for me being instructed to request a 'GAC' in the first place) at LMA. My knee was bad and when we arrived the 3rd to 9th rows were full so I explained to the young cast member I had a problem and could I use the front seating. He said could I please use the stairs instead if possible with no explanation why (these seats were practically empty). As I struggled up the stairs another cast member ran over and offered me a front row seat. I explained why I was using the stairs and they apologised and said that shouldn't have happened. I asked if in future I should show my 'GAC' at shows to be told that no it's only for attractions.

Now I don't want to criticise and I think it's wonderful that Disney think of guests with health conditions. We had a fantastic three weeks holiday and will be returning next year but obviously there appeared to be a few issues with the use of my 'GAC'. My questions are do I need a 'GAC' for shows, can I use it instead of a FP and how long does the queue have to be at the HM to use it? And please let's not turn it into a 'who should use scooter' thread :rolleyes:
It sounds you really tried not to "need" the card. It is a bummer that when you presented it, you did not have better results. I admire the fact that you enjoyed your trip and only felt compelled to present it a couple of times. You could have caused a scene, or really have been negative in your post. I tip my hat to you my friend! Hope all is well for you.
 

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