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Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

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I think we know what happened....
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Riddick

Riddick

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Hopefully this is just some quick work prior to GMR closing as others have suggested.
Though given everything else that's going on closure wise I worry this is a sign of things to come...
 
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Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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Corey P said:
Then how can Disney come up with a number of visitors to the park if no one buys tickets? If almost everyone is a park hopper how does that park actually count as a park, shouldn't it be just another attraction? How does DHS rank as the 5th biggest drawing them park in North America if no one buys a ticket to go to it?

Either tickets are sold in a large number or the TEA/AECOM report is a complete lie? Why would anyone come up with a number of vistors to DHS if no tickets get sold?????

Even with a park hopper DHS is low on my list of things to do. In fact I have stopped going to Disney so I'm not complaining, I made good on voting with my money. I bought Universal AP's and I'm going there if I want to hit a theme park. Theme parks do not make up most of vacation time any ways.
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I believe it is a simple matter of counting the number of people passing through the gates. Not overly complicated. It's just that they are not in the habit of sharing that information with the general public. We have all got to stop deciding what people do on vacation based on what we personally do. You don't spend most of your time at WDW in theme parks whereas I do, which one of us is correct in assuming the everyone does things our way. That answer is as simple as how do they know how many people are in the parks. It is equally easy to figure our how many "day" tickets were sold. Count the number of tickets sold.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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marni1971 said:
And back then it cost $29. A year later was $31 and that got you 16 hours of admittance. And you needed it.
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Back then my brand new Buick cost me about $6000.00. The cost has absolutely no relevance in this discussion. It simply boils down to, if we think it isn't worth it, we shouldn't go there. I think it is high priced as well, in fact it has personally, practically priced me out. But, that is the way things are. If all anyone measures are the freaking rides, then it seem like it isn't a day park. If we take the time to explore things, not always be in full speed mode, including Fantasmic, it is a full day easily and maybe not as spectacular as we remember it, but, not that shabby either. All things in perspective based on the present, the past is gone. 16 hours of admittance? Seriously, there has never been a time in the history of DHS that 16 hours was required to see everything. Twice maybe or if you're traveling around with a camera and repeating rides over and over to get all the angles, perhaps. Otherwise no!
 
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danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Animaniac93-98 said:
They go by first gate click. Those who visit DHS first, and then another park, are counted as DHS guests for the day.
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I am not sure how they could do that when Disney doesn't give them the numbers and they don't physically count the people going into the parks. As the TEA/AECOM report points out, if they don't get numbers from the park operators they use various tools to come up with an estimate.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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marni1971 said:
It absolutely does. You got more for less.

But I'm not doing this. Not today.
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Sorry, but that doesn't alter my statement. Tell me about anything that gave you more because the prices went up. If we could back up time to the late 80's that would be wonderful, but, we cannot and what things cost are higher in every situation you care to think about. And you don't get more, you get the same or less. The argument that Disney prices exceed the cost of living is also an invalid thought. Many things are not based on the cost of living. Very many things are based on demand and in many instances what people comprehend as a special value. Cost of living applies only to things that we are required for life. WDW or any other park is hardly a necessity. That argument is totally bogus.

I could buy a Rolls Royce for perhaps $200,000.00 or a VW Passat for $23,000.00. In the end both will get me to the same places, which is the requirement of an auto. Rolls certainly didn't stay with or concern themselves about any cost of living factor. It was what the market would bear. If people are willing to pay 200K for the two RR's on the grill they will continue to charge 200K because there is a market for it. You pay for special experience (something you still get at Disney) and what it costs almost 30 years ago has no bearing on anything. All it amounts to is what it costs back then.

You don't have to go into it today or any day as far as that is concerned. It will not alter my opinion anymore then anyone repeating the same thing over and over again will alter yours. I boils down to this... if it isn't worth it... do not go to it.
 

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