More Wrapped Buses

[lazyboy97o]

Stop it! Nobody wants to hear your logical arguments 'round here!

But don't listen to me. I'm just hear for the cheese wheel argument. Just waiting to get through this bus stuff so I can defend the parmigiano.

Why is inside versus outside of an experience so hard to comprehend?

 

[unkadug]

They where not bolded in my original post. Someone changed them when they quoted my post.

That wasn't the question.

 

[DVCOwner]

That wasn't the question.

Typos

 

[jensenrick]

If they make a Wrapped Bus for the Tomorrowland movie, do you think it will have George Clooney's face? He's the only reason anyone wants to see this turkey, right?

 

[StageFrenzy]

If they make a Wrapped Bus for the Tomorrowland movie, do you think it will have George Clooney's face? He's the only reason anyone wants to see this turkey, right?

Everyone makes a turkey once, however Brad Bird has yet to disappoint. I’m a sucker for sci-fi escapism too.

 

[jensenrick]

Everyone makes a turkey once, however Brad Bird has yet to disappoint. I’m a sucker for sci-fi escapism too.

Maybe he's due?
I like sci-fi escapism, too. I've yet to see evidence that this is what we are getting.

 

[StageFrenzy]

Maybe he's due?
I like sci-fi escapism, too. I've yet to see evidence that this is what we are getting.

I don’t know any of the plots but I have seen certain things like filming at Disneyland and MK, the teasers and Hugh Laurie is in it. I have decided to stop watching trailers for most movies after the first teaser and trying to tune out many of the spoilers to enjoy movies more.
Speaking of Sci-fi escapism I am debating on if I want to see Jupiter Ascending, I feel like it is going to be awesome, as in an awesome pile of Speed Racer/Matrix 2+3.

 

[jensenrick]

Speaking of Sci-fi escapism I am debating on if I want to see Jupiter Ascending, I feel like it is going to be awesome, as in an awesome pile of Speed Racer/Matrix 2+3.

IKR!! When you read the plot out loud, it's just so absurd- it makes you wonder if people will flock to it for the sheer ridiculousness of it.

 

[SnarkyMonkey]

I don’t know any of the plots but I have seen certain things like filming at Disneyland and MK, the teasers and Hugh Laurie is in it. I have decided to stop watching trailers for most movies after the first teaser and trying to tune out many of the spoilers to enjoy movies more.
Speaking of Sci-fi escapism I am debating on if I want to see Jupiter Ascending, I feel like it is going to be awesome, as in an awesome pile of Speed Racer/Matrix 2+3.

I want to see Tomorrowland for...Tomorrowland.

 

[Kman101]

I think the odd thing about the complaining is that the Agent Carter bus, at least, is far better themed than the ordinary buses. It makes the ordinary bus look like something distinct and interesting. While it may be an advertisement, IMHO it is one that actually enhances the environment.

Beyond that, I don't see how doing the wraps or not damages the WDW experience. The buses are not "on stage" and part of the theming and environment to begin with. I'm actually sympathetic to most arguments about intrusions of the outside world into the theme parks, but this strikes me as an odd place to draw a line.

Perfectly said.

And I very highly doubt that many guests are walking around going "my bubble is ruined! that bus is WRAPPED!"

THAT is what kills the magic? That bursts the bubble? A wrapped bus? One or two in a string of HOW many buses?

 

[SnarkyMonkey]

Perfectly said.

And I very highly doubt that many guests are walking around going "my bubble is ruined! that bus is WRAPPED!"

THAT is what kills the magic? That bursts the bubble? A wrapped bus? One or two in a string of HOW many buses?

One person has actually said that because of the wrapped buses, they are never going back WDW.

 

[Kman101]

Oh, I'm sure there are some who say that, and mean it. Like some saying they'll "never ever go back because of the magic bands". Well, they aren't going away so I guess those people won't ever never in a million years go back. Yeah, no, they will.

I just think the outrage for the wrapping of buses is overblown. Just my opinion. It doesn't affect my visits and it barely registers. But, that's me. We're all different and I get that for some, it DOES take you out of the bubble. I personally can't relate to that, it doesn't ruin anything for me.

Why is someone letting that have an impact on their visit, though. That's why I find it a bit overblown. You're letting a wrapped bus affect you?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Who has said that the wraps are the thing that kills immersion and the bubble? It's another example of "declining by degrees," not an end-all be-all.

 

[ULPO46]

Honestly its not such a big deal. Sure it may not be the traditional Disney Transport livery, but its something different. It's not like Seaworld or Universal have their own transport system. They are allowed to do what ever they want even if we may not like it.

 

[jakeman]

Who has said that the wraps are the thing that kills immersion and the bubble? It's another example of "declining by degrees," not an end-all be-all.

You did:

The goal is a bubble, so more needles is not an acceptable condition. The existence of other needles, the removal of which would be plussing a long held Disney belief, does not justify more.

 

[doctornick]

Why is someone letting that have an impact on their visit, though. That's why I find it a bit overblown. You're letting a wrapped bus affect you?

That's what I don't understand. I don't really comprehend what "bubble" exists that the plain old bus supports, but that the wrapped bus somehow diminishes.

I can understand if someone argued that all the buses should be themed somehow (to the specific resorts, for example) or that the buses should be replaced by something more "interesting" like peoplemovers/monorails/whatever (don't we wish!). What I don't understand is how the plain buses are doing anything to promote the "bubble" or theming or show. They are just plain, utilitarian transport. And the buses with wraps are just done-up utilitarian transport. Neither impacts "show" at all. IMHO.

I do believe that when people harp about insignificant stuff like this, it really hurts legit complaints about how the resort has declined because it makes it too easy to dismiss valid complaints as coming from some nut jobs.

 

[Kman101]

To be honest, I find the 90s purple-ish Disney buses more glaring and out of place than a wrapped bus. Basically it is like any bus in anytown USA with Disney plastered on it. Where's the complaint for that? I find the new color scheme much more appealing and 'themed'.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You did:

Maybe you should read more closely. That I reference "needles," plural, means it is not the one that bursts.

That's what I don't understand. I don't really comprehend what "bubble" exists that the plain old bus supports, but that the wrapped bus somehow diminishes.

I can understand if someone argued that all the buses should be themed somehow (to the specific resorts, for example) or that the buses should be replaced by something more "interesting" like peoplemovers/monorails/whatever (don't we wish!). What I don't understand is how the plain buses are doing anything to promote the "bubble" or theming or show. They are just plain, utilitarian transport. And the buses with wraps are just done-up utilitarian transport. Neither impacts "show" at all. IMHO.

I do believe that when people harp about insignificant stuff like this, it really hurts legit complaints about how the resort has declined because it makes it too easy to dismiss valid complaints as coming from some nut jobs.

You're trying to make it a dichotomy of support or contradict, when there are three paths: support, neutral or contradiction. One mostly uniform bus design is an attempt at being neutral. It's one consistent design that is trying to be just visible enough to inform that it is the proper bus.

To be honest, I find the 90s purple-ish Disney buses more glaring and out of place than a wrapped bus. Basically it is like any bus in anytown USA with Disney plastered on it. Where's the complaint for that? I find the new color scheme much more appealing and 'themed'.

The wraps are not theming. They do not create an experience.

 

[flynnibus]

They are just plain, utilitarian transport. And the buses with wraps are just done-up utilitarian transport. Neither impacts "show" at all. IMHO.

Sometimes clean and neutral is far better than loud and distracting.

I mentioned this earlier in the tread on the 'practicality' posts. Often there are elements that are just impossible to immerse in the setting or remove... so there are other tactics like minimization, or aiming for neutral for instance. Make them disappear in the mind/memory of the guest.

While the bus scheme is not ADDING to the experience beyond trying to project clean and professional... it is also not DETRACTING by being completely bombastic and out of place.

It's not about the bus... it's about what's being towed around on the bus.

 

[Kman101]

The wraps are not theming. They do not create an experience.

I didn't say the wraps create an experience at all. And I didn't say the wraps are theming. Instead of being quick to jump at what I post, read my post.

I like the new color scheme (red/white-gray) and find them more themed than the wrapped buses and the 90s buses they're still running.