More PI News - Motions going 18 & Up

TRITON4ME

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TAC said:
And you can be drafted or join the armed forces at the age of 18 in America. So you can fight and DIE for your country, but you cannot legally consume alcohol doing it. Stupid, I agree.

I cannot say or discuss more, because it would become political, and I respect the moderators wishes that discussions NOT become political.

As stated above, trust me it is a good law! I couldn't immagine my friends being able to legally purchae alcohol! It's already rediculous how much we can consume in one night and that's illegally! I personally think that kids my age don't know when enough is enough and when their body can not handle anymore alcohol.

Personally, I think the best thing a parent could do for their child is on their 16th birthday allow them to drink A LOT of alcohol and liquor until they start to throw up.:lol: The first night where I got sick was definately not a night to remember and I didn't even want to look at another beer for a week!

Actually, today is what I call a "recovery day." Last night I got absolutely plastered and now I know I have to take a day off because I'm still actually feeling the effects. But at least I never threw up.

For all you youngsters out there remember one thing: LIQUOR BEFORE BEER KEEPS YOU IN THE CLEAR! (In other word you won't spend the entire night throwing up! NOT FUN!)
 

PhotoDave219

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I beg to differ about the "trash" comment. Me and my former GF used to go to PI a lot. Another firend whom i met there is far more worldly in her education and her travels then you'll ever be, so before you go generalizing the clientel of PI, think first, Okay?
 

longfamily

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In louisisana the legal drinking age was 18 until 1995. We used to joke that as long as you could look over the bar then you were legal. :)

Alcohol here (southern Louisiana) is just as much a part of the culture as crawfish. It was very common when I was growing up to be drunk at the age of 13 during family events (including Mardi Gras parades). It was, and still is in some areas, common for teenagers to have alcohol at parties with parental consent. Generally parents would be present and have the permission of other parents to let the kids get drunk. No big deal as long as no one was driving. I grew up in a culture where alcohol was not a big thing. At the age of 18 we went out and drank legally. Statistics from that time frame show that the most deaths and DWI's occured in the 32-39 age range. The 18-25 year old's came in at #3. Locals swear that we didn't have as many problems because we were "trained" from an early age how to handle ourselves when intoxicated. By 21yrs old, we had already grown out of the bar scene and spent more time at house gatherings. There are many benefits to that.

When the legal drinking age turned to 21, I had been 18 for 9 months and Louisiana did not feel like giving us a grandfather clause. Bars served us anyway...atleast for a couple of more years or long enough for the 18 yr olds to turn 21:animwink:
Something happened to the area though. 18yr olds couldn't buy alcohol anymore (unless they were in a bar) which meant no more buying beer for their high school friends. Although parents still let kids drink, it wasn't an every weekend occurance. Drugs took on a bigger role for those 21 and under.

If you check the statistics of when drugs really became an underage force, it is when the legal drinking ages were changed to deny access to minors.
Now instead of a kid throwing up from a night of playing quarters we have drug addiction and overdose.

It used to be that a friend would get stupid drunk and their friends would laugh and take them home and it was all innocent enough. Drinking stopped at drinking. Now kids are taking XTC and when they feel like it's not enough they take more, then they take the acid that their freind gave them and they end up in a psych ward for the night for observation because it was a little too much to handle. Friends aren't laughing, they are dropping them off on the side of the road because they don't want to be caught with the tweeked out kid because they are high too and paranoid (true story, many times over). It's not so innocent of a night anymore. By changing the law, this has become a nightly reality for underage kids. IMO drugs has a far worse effect on a growing mind than any night of alcohol, maybe that's why they're illegal:lookaroun

Now many will say, my husband from IL. included, that it is wronge to give kids alcohol. Many will agree that the way Kids are raised with access to alcohol like we did in Louisiana is a total lack of responsability on the parents part. But in our defense, the kids who drank early on grew up to drink less than their peers as adults...adults that drive. They had less alcohol related traffic issues and less deaths per year. They were more responsible drinkers period. And...many of them drank less and less as they got older. It wasn't a new thing for them by the time they hit 21. They were over drinking binges and being sick after a rough night.

If you can vote and die for your country at 18, you should be able to drink. but, not because you can go to war or vote but because there is no valid reason to make someone wait until they are 21. A whole region is living proof.
 

Legacy

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TAC said:
And you can be drafted or join the armed forces at the age of 18 in America. So you can fight and DIE for your country, but you cannot legally consume alcohol doing it. Stupid, I agree.
Yeah... but most bars in this country will go ahead and give a service member a drink if they show military ID. The law is typically for those NOT in the military.
 

TRITON4ME

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PhotoDave219 said:
I beg to differ about the "trash" comment. Me and my former GF used to go to PI a lot. Another firend whom i met there is far more worldly in her education and her travels then you'll ever be, so before you go generalizing the clientel of PI, think first, Okay?

Probably the only club I would ever go to would be at PI. I was just generalizing all the clientel I have seen at clubs I have been to. Trust me, in no way was I trying to offend anyone by that post and I apologise if I did offend you. I think it's AWESOME that you met someone in WDW! Personally, I couldn't think of a better way to meet someone you care about.
 

bsandersjr

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PhotoDave219 said:
There are signs up that as of Feb. 6th, Motions will become an 18 & over club.

This means that people under the age of 18 will not be able to get in with an adult as they can now.

Personally, i think its long overdue. Just not an environment sutible for minors.

They started that already. There are signs everwhere, as of Jan.20, 2005
 

Gail Hayden

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PhotoDave219 said:
Yes Gail, the AC does tone it down a bit when Kids are around. I know some of the performers have a problem with lil kids around late at night, based on comments theyve made. (And the small pathways do tend to be a problem for the strollers.)

I know i get uncomfortable when im downing a drink and i'm talking with friends and i look over and theres a seven year old.

I get uncomfortable when I see a child there, only because of some of the language, but, hey, it is not my child, and I don't feel responsible to watch what is said in front of the child, that is the parents' duty.
I have heard comments made by the CMs to the child. IE: Do your parents always bring you to a bar at 10 pm? etc. They are said in a way, I feel, to make the parents aware that this is NOT the place for a child and adults are not particularly elated about them being there.
 

Gail Hayden

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TRITON4ME said:
Well, I guess I could go if I wanted to. But it's too bad that I hate clubs. All the girls who are at clubs are trash (just from my experiences). I really don't understand why people who are under 21 go to PI. I mean if you are under 21 YOU CAN'T DRINK (leagally atleast). I know a lot of minors drink underage (heck I'm definately one of them) but seriously why waste your time at a club. I have never met anyone worth while at a club. I mean if you do meet someone and it gets serious people will ask you where did you meet? In a club:lookaroun . Oh yeah that will really show that you know how to pick 'em!:lol:

Go easy there. Many nice people do go to clubs and many relationships/marriages have come from those meetings. Not everyone is "trash", as you put it.
 

Gail Hayden

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TAC said:
And you can be drafted or join the armed forces at the age of 18 in America. So you can fight and DIE for your country, but you cannot legally consume alcohol doing it. Stupid, I agree.

I cannot say or discuss more, because it would become political, and I respect the moderators wishes that discussions NOT become political.

There is NO draft.....yet. Yes, you do have to sign up for something that is non-existant at this time. At this time, it is a choice for an 18 year old to join the service. Drinking and joining the service is really unrelated. You would have a point IF there was a draft.
You can also vote at 18. 21 is the legal age to consume alcohol in most states, DWI stats indicate that there is a huge DWI problem between the age of 18-21. Hence the law.
 

Figment1986

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I find the law strange.. it is up to the state to determine the law.... so national law states.. 18.. drafted... no beer.. you can vote.. no beer...you can do a lot of stuff.. but no beer... yet back in the 70s.. 18 and up could get a beer or some sort of alcaholl....

This is wrong... i would love to have the law changed back to 18.. but it may never happen.... back to drinking my "legal" pina calada i made at home.... not much run.. maby a small tea spoon... :lookaroun give or take..
 

Gail Hayden

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Legacy said:
Yeah... but most bars in this country will go ahead and give a service member a drink if they show military ID. The law is typically for those NOT in the military.

Not in CT. Not even the sub-base serves to those under 21. The irony, however, is if I had a child under 21 and I was with them, they can serve my underage child in a bar( this was back when my kids were underage, it may have changed and I never used it anyway).
You also cannot get into the casino to gamble with a MID, but, you can deal for the casino before you are 21 and you can also serve alcohol before you are 21 in all of CT.
 

diddy_mouse

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i've always found Pleasure Island to have an interesting mix of people. when i was there we had the adults, the college kids, the high school seniors that just graduated, and families with little kids who should not be out that late and definitely not around a club environment. it bothers me to see little kids running around PI with their parents a mile behind them, enjoying their drinks. :veryconfu

i am curious to head back to PI and see if anything is different now that its no longer gated. but all in all, i enjoy going there (except when there was a convention of drunk Enterprise car rental guys there :shudder:)
 

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Gail Hayden

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TAC said:
Really? No kidding. :rolleyes: At 38 years old now, and having registered for "selective service" at the age of 18, thanks for telling me that.

No, joining the service now, and having a really good chance and ending up in Iraq or Afghanistan in a year is related. Please note that I did say "draft or joining the sevice."

There is also a huge problem with senior citizens having the eyesight, hearing, and reaction time needed to drive safely, but we don't stop them from driving, do we?

Happily I can read. I was specifically responding to your comment about the draft, which, at this time does not exist, however, you still have to sign up for the SS. Which, of course, you already knew, but, you did make it appear that there was still a draft. Not everyone that reads this forum is from the US and I was trying to keep stuff straight.
Yes, there is an huge problelm with senior citizens and driving, and yes, in some cases they are denied a license, not as often as I would like to see, but, it is done. Their reaction time is similar to a 38 year old male on a cell phone while driving. ;) Actually, it is similar to anyone on a cell phone while driving, which is, yet, another issue which needs to be addressed big time, but, that is another topic.
BTW, was there a reason for your sarcasm?
 

Gail Hayden

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TAC said:
I apoligize to you and the rest of the members about the sarcasm. I mis-read your comments.

Hopefully there aren't any senior citizens, using a cell phone, slowing down to look at signs for EPCOT, while others are attempting to break the land speed record on World Drive.

:wave:

No worries Tac. Thank you. :)
 

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