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More Disney Fun with Social Media (pics included!)
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Nemo14
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Getting back on topic, I tend to think that anyone seeking information about Disney, or any corporation for that matter, by reading the company website certainly realizes that they are getting a very slanted view. It's all these other websites/blogs/podcasts/whatever that have potential for unbiased information that are problematic because they are wined and dined by Disney. These "perks" should be clearly stated to the public, but I'm not sure how this can be reasonably enforced.
maxairmike
Well-Known Member
Sorry, 74, but your OP comes off as way too venom-filled and accusing to be taken seriously. I really can't get your beef with it, its a freaking Tumblr. As a hobby photographer who has a Tumblr, I'm salivating at the thought of getting my Disney pics on that DisneyParks Tumblr for some free exposure. As someone who has worked in social media and continues to on a personal basis, it seems you reserve an awful lot of undue venom for the platforms, no matter the situation and always have some kind of beef to pick with it. I get that some Disney fans have become intolerable and "tainted" through their involvement, but it seems you've taken it to a whole other level in your criticisms as a result. For lack of a better phrase, you've gone and destroyed the crop due to one bad apple.
I think you have a lot of useful and important things to say (and actually agree with you quite often even if I don't say it), but every time you talk about Disney and social media all I see is ridiculous amounts of venom even when it isn't warranted.
I think you have a lot of useful and important things to say (and actually agree with you quite often even if I don't say it), but every time you talk about Disney and social media all I see is ridiculous amounts of venom even when it isn't warranted.
wdwfan22
Well-Known Member
WRONG! They are free to conduct business any way they feel pleased to on there own site or blog. They don't owe you anything or anyone that accesses the blog or site an explaination about anything. They are free to post the content they wish and operate as they wish.
Lee
Adventurer
And we are free to label them as "marks", "sellouts", "stooges", "whores", "shills", "puppets", etc.
Everyone is free...
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
I have no idea what is going on here.. just lots of people arguing
Clever Name
Well-Known Member
Deceptive practices and hidden agendas make your country great?
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
No, they are free to conduct business and we are free to choose whether to give them our business. Whether that business is actually purchasing a product or visiting their website or believing their content, it is still our right.
I feel sad that this has to be spelled out for you.
Clever Name
Well-Known Member
We call that ethical business practice.
SirLink
Well-Known Member
I thought in your country, the FTC actually introduced some unworkable disclosure policy for blogs - by that they won't issue fines/monitor blogs, but would be good for blogs to disclosure either way. So technically Spirit is right there should be some form of transparency between reviewers and consumers, especially seen as one of your countries governmental institutions have indicated it so.
Here is the link:
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus71-ftcs-revised-endorsement-guideswhat-people-are-asking
They can indeed post whatever they like on their own sites. But again, if they want to claim to be impartial, then let them be so. However, the instant they begin to accept "considerations" from the same entities they're supposed to be objectively reviewing, then people can (and should) call them out on it.....
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Who is this "we" and "your country" that you keep referring to?
Is the "Land" that you are from that much better than the USA?
CBOMB
Active Member
You know who plays nice? People who like to lose. ... My own Spirited mother calls me 'a winner' and I take that as a high compliment!
That's only because she's never heard you bad mouth her cooking like I have.
CBOMB
Active Member
I often wonder what the difference is between an opossum and just a plain possum (had one living in my backyard until I had to remove some shrubs ... actually felt guilty cause it was like I was BoA and he was a squatter that had lost his job in 2009 and stopped paying his mortgage so he could buy food, but those things were making a mess of the backyard).
I don't think Mr. Lee wants me giving Mrs. Lee any still advice ... the woman when sober still wants to off him and run off with me ... and, really, who could blame her?
A possum hangs in a tree. You hit it with a spotlight. Shoot it with a 22, skin it out, and eat the meat. When the pelt is used for a collar on a jacket in some fancy ladies boutique it becomes an oposom. It's actually the same animal. I was just being a little hoity-toity in my post. It's nice to know you have rescued many turtles, but you caused one poor possum to become homeless.
Strange how Mrs. Lee feels that way when sober. I've always found Lee to be quite charming. While you on the other hand at times can be....how shall I say....rather coarse, and caustic perhaps.
Aren't "opossums" from the Americas and "possums" from Australasia?
Opossum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Opossum_2.jpg
Possum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trichosurus_vulpecula_1.jpg
It's just that lots of people call opossums, "possums"
I'm talking about social media in general. This is just a small blip in that pond ... and even you admit you're looking for free exposure. Would you like a free trip too? Room at the Grand Flo? How about a nice dinner at Citricos ... and you must try Be Our Guest! Everyone seems to want in on the social media gravy train. How many posters on this site alone have other blogs or are tied to Disney related travel agencies?
It used to be so simple to be a fan online. You went to a Disney site or sites and talked (or argued) with other fans ... but there were no personal business implications for it. Now ... it's anything goes to get the eye/attention of the Celebration Place Social Media Cabal.
You are free to agree or disagree (I don't think there was an amendment on the FL ballot on that subject, but maybe there was!)
I feel that much of Disney social media has been tainted by the behaviour of individuals AND, most importantly, the company. It's not one bad apple. It's an orchard that has been infected and many of the trees that are fine are waving their branches yelling 'take me next!!!'
Not really. The FTC has laws in place to cover such situations. Now, do people follow them? Well, some do, some don't. Sorta like the speed limit.
The problem is when you run an 'independent' fan site and then work for Disney on the side. The following is part of a typical contract between a blogger/photog/contractor etc and the Mouse:
"Publisher does not have any right to alter or modify such Disney Brand
Features; (iii) Publisher will not use or display Disney Brand Features
or any of the other Disney Material in any manner that is defamatory,
misleading, libelous, obscene or otherwise potentially damaging to the
reputation of DSI or DSI’s affiliated companies or the goodwill
associated with the Disney Brand Features"
What that means in English is ''don't you dare think about saying one less than MAGICal thing about us'' because as nasty as some of our PR folks can be, you really don't want to be dealing with our lawyers!''
Yes, we are. Ain't the USA great?
I love that we can namecall as protected speech by the Declaration of Amendments to the Mount Rushmore Charter and Patriot Act!
Now, I just gave you your 1800th like here and can't help but notice that for someone often accused of being my hillbilly minion of Disney hate that you are slow with the 'like button' ... would you like Mrs. Lee to splain to you how that works?
That's only because she's never heard you bad mouth her cooking like I have.
Trust me, she has.
That's why we'll be eating out on Turkey Day!