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Morality test

tigsmom

Well-Known Member
ACE said:
OK, You've convinced me. This will be the "Not Really Polictical Joke" thread from here on out. Here's one from me.

Al Gore and the Clintons are flying on Air Force One. Bill looks at Al, chuckles and says, "You know, I could throw a $10,000 bill out the window right now and make one person very happy."
Al shrugs his stiff shoulders and says, "Well, I could throw ten $1,000 bills out the window and make 10 people very happy".

Hillary tosses her perfectly sprayed hair and says, "Of course, then, I could throw one-hundred $100 bills out the window and make a hundred people very happy."

Chelsea rolls her eyes, looks at all of them and says, "I could throw all of you out the window and make the whole country happy."


Take Care,
:wave: ACE

Very good!
:cool:
 

Maria

New Member
Legacy said:
Huh?... does this have to do with the original topic? I don't remember it anymore...

:lol: :animwink:
LOL
I didn´t read the whole thread and just now realized it has turned into a small debate! It´s ok... guys, don´t think too much about it and just laugh! I was giving it a serious thought when I read the ending! Come on... relax... I think we would all save a human life... at least I want to believe so. ;)
 

GoofyFan1

Active Member
barnum42 said:
Why is it so hard to understand that the post was only a joke? I put the caveat on there to make sure it was to be aknowledged as such and not a veiled attempt to force political beliefs on anyone.

I think the way the thread has now drifted is interesting in that it highlights the different way we in the UK may view political humour - as humour and nothing more. Yes, some will twist it towards electoral means, but the US election is over I did not see it as an issue. I certainly would not have posted it before.

I have now learnt that here is an area where our senses of humour do not dovetail together and will leave it at that.

Steve - it's your sandbox we are playing in. If you feel this thread is too political then drop kick into oblivion :wave:

My suggestion would be to use your own politicians in your humor and leave ours out. Caveat or not it was an ill attempt at humor, and as ACE said, why is it so hard to follow the no politics rule?

Please try to be more sensitive.
 

Tramp

New Member
barnum42 said:
my thoughts concluded that my friends on here would take it as in the humourous spirit it was intended.

I came into this thread with far too much baggage. :veryconfu I had seen this 'joke' on the internet several times in political forums and the tremendous amount of hate associated with it. I overreacted to it and don't mind apologizing for prolonging this discussion beyond it's usefulness.

The ironic thing about political debate in most arenas is that it is extremely rare that one's political point of view is changed, but friendships and civil discourse are destroyed forever. :wave:
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
GoofyFan1 said:
My suggestion would be to use your own politicians in your humor and leave ours out. Caveat or not it was an ill attempt at humor, and as ACE said, why is it so hard to follow the no politics rule?

Please try to be more sensitive.

I disagree with that. The world is a very small place these days. I'm sure no one would get offended if an American made a Tony Blair joke. The president isn't just "our" politician...the actions of the U.S. chief executive affect almost everyone on the blue and green dot, not just the ones eligible to vote for him.

(Not saying I encourage political discussion here, just my umbrage to the notion that people should only discuss "their" politicians.)
 

boywonder

Well-Known Member
GoofyFan1 said:
My suggestion would be to use your own politicians in your humor and leave ours out. Caveat or not it was an ill attempt at humor, and as ACE said, why is it so hard to follow the no politics rule?

Please try to be more sensitive.
Did you hear the one that Jean Chretien talked from both sides of his mouth, one side to the French Canadians and the other to English Canadians? hehehehe

You know if we can't laugh at ourselves and our Politicians then society itself has crumbled.

Merry Christmas to All and a Good Night ;)
 

boywonder

Well-Known Member
Tramp said:
I came into this thread with far too much baggage. :veryconfu I had seen this 'joke' on the internet several times in political forums and the tremendous amount of hate associated with it. I overreacted to it and don't mind apologizing for prolonging this discussion beyond it's usefulness.

The ironic thing about political debate in most arenas is that it is extremely rare that one's political point of view is changed, but friendships and civil discourse are destroyed forever. :wave:
Awww, Tramp I think you are the greatest :)

Hey, we both have great taste-we like Disney!!!
 

Dizknee_Phreek

Well-Known Member
Personally, I think Americans (in general) are too touchy about politics. I just don't get it. Sure, I get into the elections, debates (between politicians, not citizens), I choose my sides, and I even get a little upset when my candidate doesn't win, etc, etc. but if someone makes a joke, I take it as just that, a joke. Why is it that Americans can get so flustered over a joke about Bush but laugh at a joke about Britney Spears (just an example). I'm sure Barnum didn't post his message to offend anyone, which, I'm guessing, is why he posted the caveat, as to NOT offend anyone. Because as many of us know, on these boards, sometimes you have to cover all bases to keep peoples' feelings from getting hurt.
I promised myself I wouldn't get into all that, but I did anyway. If I offended anyone, I apologize in advance. :animwink:

That being said, here's my answer. I would first save the president and THEN I'd take a picture..."President George Bush Immediately After Being Saved from Certain Death"...it's still a priceless photo! I'd use B&W film...color just doesn't seem as dramatic.
Of course, Barnum, if you HAD changed Bush to Eisner, I'd have to rethink that.
 

barnum42

New Member
Original Poster
Maria said:
It´s ok... guys, don´t think too much about it and just laugh! I was giving it a serious thought when I read the ending! Come on... relax... I think we would all save a human life... at least I want to believe so. ;)
Ah - you know where I was comming from :D :wave:
 

barnum42

New Member
Original Poster
Tramp said:
I came into this thread with far too much baggage. :veryconfu I had seen this 'joke' on the internet several times in political forums and the tremendous amount of hate associated with it. I overreacted to it and don't mind apologizing for prolonging this discussion beyond it's usefulness.

The ironic thing about political debate in most arenas is that it is extremely rare that one's political point of view is changed, but friendships and civil discourse are destroyed forever. :wave:
*High fives his friend Tramp*
 

Yellow Shoes

Well-Known Member
Dizknee_Phreek said:
Why is it that Americans can get so flustered over a joke about Bush but laugh at a joke about Britney Spears (just an example).
What I see is people getting bent out of shape over a Bush joke, but never over a Clinton or Kerry joke.

I find it interesting. I don't even want to speculate about what that says about Democrats vs. Republicans.
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
Walks into thread, puts luggage on the floor....

Morality is a funny word...especially when we pound our chests proudly declaring ourselves moral with one hand, and shoot and kill a human being with the other...have we forgotten the part about "Thou shall not kill" or perhaps it was the part about "turning the other cheek"...hmmm...I guess its ok to pick and choose the situation when said moral values apply....how convenient...

As for the intent of this thread...I have to admit it was the last thing I expected therefore it was funny...

I like to think, I'd save the president, right after I take both a B&W and color picture (no sense in discriminating at that point in time)...after all its the moral thing to do...;)

Just my biased opinion...:kiss:

Oh and Miami isn't all that bad...we have SHAQ...:lookaroun
 

wdwhoneymooner

Well-Known Member
Barnum, my friend from the other side of the pond, no offense taken on this end but.........aaaiiiieeeeeeeecch I don't have the guts to post this type of thread because the wound is just way to fresh for some around these parts. Perhaps when all the battle wounds have healed it wouldn't have been interpreted the wrong way.

Peace, man. :wave:
 

ACE

New Member
wdwhoneymooner said:
Barnum, my friend from the other side of the pond, no offense taken on this end but.........aaaiiiieeeeeeeecch I don't have the guts to post this type of thread because the wound is just way to fresh for some around these parts. Perhaps when all the battle wounds have healed it wouldn't have been interpreted the wrong way.

It really has nothing to do with interpretation. The rules say NO political post. Make the joke about Britney Spears and it's not political. Make it about a politician and it is political. Very simple to understand.

But since the moderators here don't seem to have a problem with it I figured I might as well join in on the fun. That's why I posted the Clinton and Kerry jokes. I knew no one could complain since the Bush joke was OK to post.

Take Care,
:wave: ACE
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
OK, two completely separate thoughts here:

1. While I respect the opinions of ACE and others, I don't think the joke was political and here's why: It would have been just as funny (or unfunny, if you prefer) with ANY politician's name inserted. If it were specifically aimed at the war or the economy or something specific to Bush's policies, then it would be political.

Saying essentially "Wouldn't it be funny if Politician X died?" might be a bit macabre, but it's really no more political than saying "Did you know Politician Y ate here last week?" While it may invite political discourse, the original statement is completely bereft of any political content. After all, even if I DID want a politician dead, it could be based on something entirely separate from their political stances and without that qualifying material as context, you really can't presume that the desire is rooted in politics. (And yes, I realize this is FAR more analysis than this really warrants, but since that's the road we're walking, so be it.)

Completely separate thought 2: Thinking about this thread last night, I started speculating on some of the reasons some Americans are a bit more touchy on political humor (boywonder, you've read this already, so you have permission to skip ahead).

The best I can come up with is the difference in how politicians get their jobs. In Britain, the Prime Minister isn't directly elected, but appointed by Parliament (this is how I seem to remember learning it, at least), while here, we choose who we want to be president. So in the U.K., Tony Blair isn't really anybody's "choice," while here, roughly half the people voted for Bush, so presumably they identify more closely with him and feel they need to defend him.


Anyway....that's enough blather from me.
 

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