DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JackCH]

Pirates and Haunted Mansion are E tickets and Navi is a C ticket. It doesn't make sense to compare them and say it's not as good because it was never intended to have the scale of those attractions; it isn't supposed to be as good. It's a little like complaining that Winnie the Pooh isn't as good as the Tower of Terror.

I don't disagree with any of your suggestions, but again, they're essentially just complaints that it isn't a D or E ticket.

I would love to have a D or E ticket version of Navi, but it isn't supposed to be that. As a C ticket, it's pretty great and probably the best C ticket at Disney World. I wish Disney designed more rides like it, regardless of the scale -- Tiana, e.g., would be a much better ride if it had the detail that NRJ has.

Of course the wait times are too long, but that's just a function of Animal Kingdom not having enough attractions (and also that it's popular and people like it, because people don't wait that long for rides they don't really like regardless of the park).

I agree. As I said earlier the only real problem with Navi is it shouldn't be the "second" attraction, but is perfect as a third or fourth.

 

[GoofGoof]

I get that you really love it, and in general it is a beautiful ride...my problem with it, is that it lacks a sense of story... Like Small World, it is lots of eye candy in a slow moving boat that just sort of ends... The one animatronic is amazing, but the ride needed a finale moment... Maybe a gigantic showroom with the tree of life in the middle and more animatronic creatures.... I think that would have made it a bigger more awe inspiring finale...and would have made it feel even more memorable... To me it is not repeatable like Pirates or Haunted Mansion....and it should have been...

Exactly this ^ It’s not what the ride is that I have the biggest problem with….its what it could have been. A better ending, some additional AAs and a basic story would have all made it better. If they made it with larger boats and/or maybe double loading they could have almost doubled the capacity coming similar in capacity to a ride like Pirates. AK was in desperate need of another true people eater and FoP is not great for capacity either.

Pirates and Haunted Mansion are E tickets and Navi is a C ticket. It doesn't make sense to compare them and say it's not as good because it was never intended to have the scale of those attractions; it isn't supposed to be as good. It's a little like complaining that Winnie the Pooh isn't as good as the Tower of Terror.

I don't disagree with any of your suggestions, but again, they're essentially just complaints that it isn't a D or E ticket.

My complaint is that it isn’t a D or E ticket . If a land has 2 rides both should be no less than D and preferably E. See Galaxy‘s Edge and hopefully now Tropical Americas . Obviously Monsters will only have 1 E ticket with a show and Cars seems like an E and something smaller. My original reason for bringing up Navi was not to bash the ride but more to say I hope the 2nd ride in Villians does not get the “supposed to be a C ticket” treatment. If they wanted to build an E and 3 Cs that may actually work but if it’s 2 rides both need to be co-headliners.

 

[UNCgolf]

My complaint is that it isn’t a D or E ticket . If a land has 2 rides both should be no less than D and preferably E. See Galaxy‘s Edge and hopefully now Tropical Americas . Obviously Monsters will only have 1 E ticket with a show and Cars seems like an E and something smaller. My original reason for bringing up Navi was not to bash the ride but more to say I hope the 2nd ride in Villians does not get the “supposed to be a C ticket” treatment. If they wanted to build an E and 3 Cs that may actually work but if it’s 2 rides both need to be co-headliners.

That I agree with -- I think Navi as executed is a wonderful C ticket, but Pandora either needed it to be a D/E or they needed a separate D ticket (preferably the latter, since 3 attractions would be better than 2).

Also agree that Villains should not be an E ticket and a C... especially if a roller coaster is the E, since a coaster isn't really conducive to telling a story or featuring the characters at all.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Exactly this ^ It’s not what the ride is that I have the biggest problem with….its what it could have been. A better ending, some additional AAs and a basic story would have all made it better. If they made it with larger boats and/or maybe double loading they could have almost doubled the capacity coming similar in capacity to a ride like Pirates. AK was in desperate need of another true people eater and FoP is not great for capacity either.

My complaint is that it isn’t a D or E ticket . If a land has 2 rides both should be no less than D and preferably E. See Galaxy‘s Edge and hopefully now Tropical Americas . Obviously Monsters will only have 1 E ticket with a show and Cars seems like an E and something smaller. My original reason for bringing up Navi was not to bash the ride but more to say I hope the 2nd ride in Villians does not get the “supposed to be a C ticket” treatment. If they wanted to build an E and 3 Cs that may actually work but if it’s 2 rides both need to be co-headliners.

Monsters is a mini-land and an addition to capacity atleast. But I definitely agree with you for the other lands.

 

[Garyjames220]

Any guesses to when work will start on this project

 

[GoofGoof]

Monsters is a mini-land and an addition to capacity atleast. But I definitely agree with you for the other lands.

Monsters in theory could have been a larger land, but yes, I agree that the project “as is“ makes sense to be a headliner, a show and some dining and shopping. It’s what fits that space without losing Star Tours and I would not trade star tours for a 2nd Monsters ride. It also saves the larger space in AC for a more substantial land that will hopefully feature multiple D/E tickets. I know, I know….I am preparing to be disappointed

 

[EagleScout610]

Any guesses to when work will start on this project

I would bet after this summer parts of Muppet Courtyard start closing.

 

[GoofGoof]

Any guesses to when work will start on this project

My guess would be soon. They already started some minor stuff directly behind the current Muppets area. The Door Coaster is almost entirely back stage so that work can start without disruption.

 

[JackCH]

Monsters in theory could have been a larger land, but yes, I agree that the project “as is“ makes sense to be a headliner, a show and some dining and shopping. It’s what fits that space without losing Star Tours and I would not trade star tours for a 2nd Monsters ride. It also saves the larger space in AC for a more substantial land that will hopefully feature multiple D/E tickets. I know, I know….I am preparing to be disappointed

I actually think Monsters uses that somewhat awkward space of Grand Avenue pretty well… and does about all we could need for such a land anyway. Obviously that comes down to execution.

I really really hope it is part of a bigger vision with AC being more substantial in a phase 2. But we shall see.

 

[GoofGoof]

I actually think Monsters uses that somewhat awkward space of Grand Avenue pretty well… and does about all we could need for such a land anyway. Obviously that comes down to execution.

I really really hope it is part of a bigger vision with AC being more substantial in a phase 2. But we shall see.

Execution is key for sure. The coaster has the basics to be a very fun ride that’s different…at least for WDW. I am sure Disney will make a very good queue and likely a decent pre-show and story. That’s generally their wheelhouse lately. Hopefully it all works well. The show is a wild card, ignoring what it replaces, I think it could still be good or even great but really have no idea what it will be. I am certain it will be a good place to cool off in the Summer

 

[Bocabear]

My guess would be soon. They already started some minor stuff directly behind the current Muppets area. The Door Coaster is almost entirely back stage so that work can start without disruption.

I would agree...there looks to be a lot of work ahead and not just what is in the expansion area... Looks like an entire building has to come down to open up some more space... As this only effects one attraction, the sooner the better... and hopefully the Laff-Floor will be leaving the MK when this is done and they can create something appropriate for Tomorrowland....

 

[GoofGoof]

I would agree...there looks to be a lot of work ahead and not just what is in the expansion area... Looks like an entire building has to come down to open up some more space... As this only effects one attraction, the sooner the better... and hopefully the Laff-Floor will be leaving the MK when this is done and they can create something appropriate for Tomorrowland....

I am not a construction expert so not sure on logistics, but I think maybe the gift shop building that has to be demoed (circled in blue below) could come down and they could still keep MV3D open. The pathway between MV3D and the gift shop is pretty narrow and the current exit for the show dumps you out behind the building requiring you to walk that way to get back to the front of the land (red line below). I wonder if they could re-route the exit to the Star Wars/Grand Ave side of the MV3D show building instead (yellow line). I assume that’s a backstage path used by CMs so not sure if it could be used or if it is too narrow to work. If not they could close MV3D for a week or 2 to demo the building then put up construction walls and re-open for a while. To your point they could also just close MV3D when ready to demo. It’s only delaying the inevitable so I don’t expect them to spend very much to keep it open longer but if it can be done relatively cheap and easy why not keep the capacity there as long as possible.

 

[mattpeto]

I would agree...there looks to be a lot of work ahead and not just what is in the expansion area... Looks like an entire building has to come down to open up some more space... As this only effects one attraction, the sooner the better... and hopefully the Laff-Floor will be leaving the MK when this is done and they can create something appropriate for Tomorrowland....

I guess plans could always change, but it's a new theater show and the door coaster set for this land.

MILF will be staying pat at Tomorrowland.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I am not a construction expert so not sure on logistics, but I think maybe the gift shop building that has to be demoed (circled in blue below) could come down and they could still keep MV3D open. The pathway between MV3D and the gift shop is pretty narrow and the current exit for the show dumps you out behind the building requiring you to walk that way to get back to the front of the land (red line below). I wonder if they could re-route the exit to the Star Wars/Grand Ave side of the MV3D show building instead (yellow line). I assume that’s a backstage path used by CMs so not sure if it could be used or if it is too narrow to work. If not they could close MV3D for a week or 2 to demo the building then put up construction walls and re-open for a while. To your point they could also just close MV3D when ready to demo. It’s only delaying the inevitable so I don’t expect them to spend very much to keep it open longer but if it can be done relatively cheap and easy why not keep the capacity there as long as possible.

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Unless Disney has completely changed course it would likely take a lot longer than two weeks to remove the building. They wouldn’t just knock it over but disassemble it so that materials can be recycled.

 

[GoofGoof]

Unless Disney has completely changed course it would likely take a lot longer than two weeks to remove the building. They wouldn’t just knock it over but disassemble it so that materials can be recycled.

However long it takes, a week, a month, whatever. They can gut the inside of the building now without closing MV3D and when it’s time to demo the building itself then close the attraction until it’s safe to reopen the path

 

[Bocabear]

However long it takes, a week, a month, whatever. They can gut the inside of the building now without closing MV3D and when it’s time to demo the building itself then close the attraction until it’s safe to reopen the path

Mama Melrose back there will have to close as well... One less table service restaurant in the park...for a couple years while they convert it... So we will be losing the dreadful Pizza Rizzo and Mama Melrose...A shame the TSL area never planned for a "Pizza Planet" (with better pizza) directly lifted from the Toy Story films... that would have been a no-brainer....and if the Alien Swirling Saucers were part of the building...like all indoors and outer space themed with the restaurant overlooking the ride, it would have been amazing... and a VERY popular restaurant....for the mere visual WOW of the space.....

 

[FigmentFan82]

Unless Disney has completely changed course it would likely take a lot longer than two weeks to remove the building. They wouldn’t just knock it over but disassemble it so that materials can be recycled.

Is that a common practice with Disney to recycle certain materials when demoing?

 

[rle4lunch]

Exactly this ^ It’s not what the ride is that I have the biggest problem with….its what it could have been. A better ending, some additional AAs and a basic story would have all made it better. If they made it with larger boats and/or maybe double loading they could have almost doubled the capacity coming similar in capacity to a ride like Pirates. AK was in desperate need of another true people eater and FoP is not great for capacity either.

My complaint is that it isn’t a D or E ticket . If a land has 2 rides both should be no less than D and preferably E. See Galaxy‘s Edge and hopefully now Tropical Americas . Obviously Monsters will only have 1 E ticket with a show and Cars seems like an E and something smaller. My original reason for bringing up Navi was not to bash the ride but more to say I hope the 2nd ride in Villians does not get the “supposed to be a C ticket” treatment. If they wanted to build an E and 3 Cs that may actually work but if it’s 2 rides both need to be co-headliners.

It's okay. Navi is pretty....but boring. it lacks a punch. at least have the shaman speak English so we can 'get' the message. besides the obvious conservation message that 'is' Avatar in general.. the ride is missing 'something' that makes people want to ride it more than once.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

It's okay. Navi is pretty....but boring. it lacks a punch. at least have the shaman speak English so we can 'get' the message. besides the obvious conservation message that 'is' Avatar in general.. the ride is missing 'something' that makes people want to ride it more than once.

Have the Shaman speak English?? What?

 

[rle4lunch]

Have the Shaman speak English?? What?

i said what i said! lol