Hard disagree here. The song is the real standout of Na’vi River. I think it loses a lot of its majesty if it’s not in the native language. It wouldn’t make sense in story either. We’re visiting the Na’vi to experience their culture, why should they adapt to our language?
Sam Eagle disagrees vehemently.
Well, Disney did exactly that with Harmonious! Nothing screams experiencing other cultures more than getting them to sing "our" songs.
They missed the opportunity to have the Shaman give drunk karaoke-style renditions of “Arabian Nights” and “Part of your World.”
"Colors of the Wind" was RIGHT THERE
Yeah, I'm glad they're limiting this land tbh. I love Monsters Inc but one ride at WDW is good enough for that series.Monsters in theory could have been a larger land, but yes, I agree that the project “as is“ makes sense to be a headliner, a show and some dining and shopping. It’s what fits that space without losing Star Tours and I would not trade star tours for a 2nd Monsters ride. It also saves the larger space in AC for a more substantial land that will hopefully feature multiple D/E tickets. I know, I know….I am preparing to be disappointed
I don’t think the long waits are driven by people riding more than once. It’s an issue with capacity in a park with 7 rides. All of the other rides except for the spinner that’s closed now have higher capacity. At 1,200 riders per hour only about 12,000 people can ride on the average day. I think most days the park has more than that number of guests. Some days a lot more. If anything, there are probably a large number of guests skipping the ride entirely vs riding more than once. My guess is a lot of the “skippers“ won‘t wait the 60 mins for that ride.
Don't give them any more ideas, please.
I haven’t even scratched the surface. I’m full of bad ideas.
Perfect time to open the one that ought to be in Galaxy's Edge, IMO.
I adore the ride and love how unique it's tone is. The end to me just needs a simple change. After the Shaman, we should pass into one of the tree of souls to commune with Eywa. We should be enveloped in light and the sound of voices both familiar and familiar.
I think the wait times relate to first time visitors and Pandora rather than actual ride quality. If this was a DL attraction, visited repeatedly by locals, it'd be walk on like mermaid is out there
This would be perfect and feel much more of a finale and worthy trip
Using the same directional sound tricks like the ghost host in the stretching room could make for an intimate experience where voices could be both around us and right in our ear.
I’ve always enjoyed this ride for its more intimate setting. Not everything needs to be FoP or the Safari in scale. Obviously, I love those rides also. But having a more beautiful, quiet experience is enjoyable to me. There’s something very natural and real to the experience on that ride. It isn’t bombastic and over the top experience. It is a quiet ride through an alien world, themed to the rafters. Both subtle and exquisite.
I think you are still discounting the fact that it’s the lowest capacity ride in a park with very few rides. The other rides with less wait times have higher capacity. It’s also 1 of 2 rides in the entire park with no height restriction at all which impacts not only families with little kids but a lot of people with issues around motion, size (FoP and EE) and the general roughness of rides like EE, Dino and FoP. Even the safari and/or rapids could be a no go for someone with a bad back for example. Navi is really not restricted for almost anyone and it’s a park without any other of those rides (maybe safari). There is plenty to do at AK without riding the rides; between shows, animal exhibits and restaurants/shops but most guests want to ride too. So my explanation for long lines is more around the other offerings at the park then the popularity of the ride itself.
. Trying to show an average crowd day when Kali was still in play:
. Those attractions have 50% more capacity or in the case of Dino double the capacity and they have mobility and height limitations. It seems to me that FoP wait times are lower now that it’s on LLSP. I don’t have the math to back it up and maybe it’s just that the “newness” wore off but something is driving down waits from a few years back. It’s a little harder to explain the Safari. It has more capacity than Navi but a much lower wait time not proportional to the higher capacity. It’s also the headliner of the park (co-headliner now maybe with FoP). It also has no height restrictions and is generally pretty mild (at least compared to Dino or EE). Maybe the heat impacted that day a little since the ride is all outdoors but I think Navi consistentlyhas longer waits even when temps are more mild.
I think you are still discounting the fact that it’s the lowest capacity ride in a park with very few rides. The other rides with less wait times have higher capacity. It’s also 1 of 2 rides in the entire park with no height restriction at all which impacts not only families with little kids but a lot of people with issues around motion, size (FoP and EE) and the general roughness of rides like EE, Dino and FoP. Even the safari and/or rapids could be a no go for someone with a bad back for example. Navi is really not restricted for almost anyone and it’s a park without any other of those rides (maybe safari). There is plenty to do at AK without riding the rides; between shows, animal exhibits and restaurants/shops but most guests want to ride too. So my explanation for long lines is more around the other offerings at the park then the popularity of the ride itself.
Here’s the list of AK rides with their height restrictions and also with Operational Hourly Capacity I found online so who knows how accurate. I also got the average wait times from Touring Plans for August 23, 2024 which was a 5 crowd day for the park and a day I happened to be there so I can confirm it was a pretty normal day
FoP - 44 inch - 1,440 OHC - 71 mins
Navi - none - 1,080 OHC - 61 mins
Safari - none - 1,260 OHC - 41 mins
Kali River - 38 inch - 1,620 OHC - 59 mins
Everest - 44 inch - 1,620 OHC - 42 mins
Dinosaur - 40 inch - 2,160 OHC - 32 mins
So Navi did have the second longest wait time on average that day, significantly higher than EE and Dino and probably Kali for first half of the day before the sun began melting us