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[K&KDizFreaks]

Can someone make another decade list with the rides and experiences removed or never built?

In total not impressed

 

[JD80]

This is my biggest gripe!

Disney announces stuff WAY TOO EARLY and so much is changed/cut from the early concept drawings.

Is there not a general understanding what concept art is?

 

[Nevermore525]

This is my biggest gripe!

Disney announces stuff WAY TOO EARLY and so much is changed/cut from the early concept drawings.

Walt helped set the standard for that. I mean he announced and advertised a Haunted Mansion and had advertising distributed in 1961 through the park that it would open in 1963. It eventually opened in 1969.

At the same time, yes, he and others got Disneyland opened within a year.

So it’s part of Disney history to be quick when they want to, and take their time in other instances.

 

[JD80]

We're clearly on two different wavelengths and for a lot of this. I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

My thoughts are involving things that increase attraction capacity and yours are on things like low-budget overlays*, resort/hotel room capacity increases and projects specifically designed to allow them to avoid increasing attraction capacity - the whole magicband FP+ project which is really a big part of what got us to where we are today in the parks.

You're right - they technically did do something when they opened Rivers of Light for a few months and when operations put in a few Christmas trees to offer a Frozen Sing Along as a stand-in for a real attraction to capitalize on the IP popularity that shockingly remains in this space to this day.

I was speaking to the period that ended with the opening of Pandora which you and Casper have since discussed.

Anyway, I'm willing to admit I forgot that NFL was a net gain of capacity although much of it was really shuffling around, relocating and/or closing of what had already been, if you're willing to admit MSEP coming back was a budget choice specifically done so as not to have to develop anything new when replacing the more modern parade it took the place of.

Also, listing NFL and SDMT as separate things feels more than a little disingenuous considering SDMT was the biggest part of NFL attraction-wise and just wasn't complete in time for the reopening of the rest of this redeveloped area.


*I'll concede that while being a square peg for a round hole in just about every conceivable way, FEA was not a cheaply done overlay.

2010/11 was pretty empty like I said with additions, but that's not "decade(s)" like you originally posted. I think 2010/2011 is going to closer mirror 2025/26 as far as offerings. Except we'll get TT3 next year if you want to count that.

I just listed stuff that came to the parks. Like New Fantasyland opened with some stuff and then later came 7DMT. it was long enough to split them out vs. SWGE and Rise.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Is there not a general understanding what concept art is?

Initially, I thought the concept art would resemble the end product (like it did for Mission Space) but today that is not the case, What they put out today will NOT resemble the final product.

Look at the blurry renderings for the new cars area, I cant make out anything, I actually think that is a good thing, as what we end up with in 2030 is a total unknown at this point in time.

 

[denyuntilcaught]

Is there not a general understanding what concept art is?

I think that's a disingenuous argument, lol.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Walt helped set the standard for that. I mean he announced and advertised a Haunted Mansion and had advertising distributed in 1961 through the park that it would open in 1963. It eventually opened in 1969.

At the same time, yes, he and others got Disneyland opened within a year.

So it’s part of Disney history to be quick when they want to, and take their time in other instances.

Yes, Disney is super fast when building DVC towers...

 

[lazyboy97o]

The public announcement was once the project officially kicked off.

No, it was not. It officially kicked off well before it was announced.

 

[JD80]

Initially, I thought the concept art would resemble the end product (like it did for Mission Space) but today that is not the case, What they put out today will NOT resemble the final product.

Look at the blurry renderings for the new cars area, I cant make out anything, I actually think that is a good thing, as what we end up with in 2030 is a total unknown at this point in time.

Concept art is there just to give you a general idea of something, especially concept art done early in a project process.

 

[JD80]

I think that's a disingenuous argument, lol.

So there isn't a general understanding?

 

[GoofGoof]

Yes, Disney is super fast when building DVC towers...

Ironically that’s the one thing they do tend to delay announcing. I think it’s usually because they don’t want to announce something new until the majority of the previous project’s points are sold.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Concept art is there just to give you a general idea of something, especially concept art done early in a project process.

Thanks for the clarification.

I am sure everyone at the packed stadium at D23 knew this.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Ironically that’s the one thing they do tend to delay announcing. I think it’s usually because they don’t want to announce something new until the majority of the previous project’s points are sold.

I was speaking of the speed at which they put up the DVC towers, but yes.

 

[JD80]

Thanks for the clarification.

I am sure everyone at the packed stadium at D23 knew this.

People in the packed stadium are seeing a cool looking rally car ride over some terrain and getting excited.

People in these forums are magnifying it and counting how many flags are in the picture and holding Disney accountable.

 

[Disstevefan1]

People in the packed stadium are seeing a cool looking rally car ride over some terrain and getting excited.

People in these forums are magnifying it and counting how many flags are in the picture and holding Disney accountable.

Disney wont be held accountable, they never are.

Folks just make excuses and many times blame the fans.

Cant wait to see what we end up with in the new cars area.

 

[mickEblu]

People in the packed stadium are seeing a cool looking rally car ride over some terrain and getting excited.

People in these forums are magnifying it and counting how many flags are in the picture and holding Disney accountable.

Bad example though - the Cars ride announcement was met with crickets… and that was BEFORE people knew the entire ROA was going to be demolished. They really just need to cancel that, not waste their money and get started on Villains land right away.

 

[GoofGoof]

Disney wont be held accountable, they never are.

Folks just make excuses and many times blame the fans.

Cant wait to see what we end up with in the new cars area.

People here will hold them accountable. If you go all the way back to the Fantasyland Expansion threads people were bent out of shape over the fact that the 7DMT did not actually go over a bridge made from a fallen tree. This was the early concept art:

and this is what we got:

There were pages of posts railing on about it. Inevitably Monsters won’t end up with every element featured in the concept art and people will call it out. That’s fine, but it does miss the point of the art.

 

[WorldExplorer]

People here will hold them accountable. If you go all the way back to the Fantasyland Expansion threads people were bent out of shape over the fact that the 7DMT did not actually go over a bridge made from a fallen tree. This was the early concept art:
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and this is what we got:
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There were pages of posts railing on about it. Inevitably Monsters won’t end up with every element featured in the concept art and people will call it out. That’s fine, but it does miss the point of the art.

And the waterfall hasn't been on in a long time...

 

[JackCH]

I’m probably one of the few who likes New Fantasyland lol. I think the fantasy forest is a great themed area.

I do prefer toontown to the Circus though.

 

[Blobbles]

Attempting to get back on topic, its bittersweet that they found a way for door coaster to not replace anything in muppets courtyard. Sure, it’ll be a net capacity increase, but muppetvision could’ve been saved.

Honestly, my heart aches that sesame street’s American theme park rights are stuck with seaworld. Maybe its the armchair imagineer and muppets fan in me speaking, but if Disney had Sesame Street rights, i think the potential was there for a good “General Jim Henson” land, as the “Muppety city” theme could be expanded upon, and couldve been a really nice celebration of jim’s work. If only…

In my mind: Keep Rizzo and MV3D, Maybe stick a Sesame Street Version of “Ride and Go Seek” from japan back where door coaster is, Theme the old Christmas store to “Mr Hooper’s Store” and theme everything else generally muppets stuff. Stick a “Cookie Monster” themed stand that sells cookies and birdseed milkshakes or something. I think that could've been nice. Just me though.