denyuntilcaught
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I think that's a disingenuous argument, lol.
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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Disstevefan1
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Yes, Disney is super fast when building DVC towers...
lazyboy97o
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No, it was not. It officially kicked off well before it was announced.
JD80
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Concept art is there just to give you a general idea of something, especially concept art done early in a project process.
JD80
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So there isn't a general understanding?
GoofGoof
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Ironically that’s the one thing they do tend to delay announcing. I think it’s usually because they don’t want to announce something new until the majority of the previous project’s points are sold.
Disstevefan1
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Disstevefan1
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I was speaking of the speed at which they put up the DVC towers, but yes.
JD80
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People in the packed stadium are seeing a cool looking rally car ride over some terrain and getting excited.
People in these forums are magnifying it and counting how many flags are in the picture and holding Disney accountable.
Disstevefan1
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Disney wont be held accountable, they never are.
Folks just make excuses and many times blame the fans.
Cant wait to see what we end up with in the new cars area.
mickEblu
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Bad example though - the Cars ride announcement was met with crickets… and that was BEFORE people knew the entire ROA was going to be demolished. They really just need to cancel that, not waste their money and get started on Villains land right away.
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GoofGoof
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People here will hold them accountable. If you go all the way back to the Fantasyland Expansion threads people were bent out of shape over the fact that the 7DMT did not actually go over a bridge made from a fallen tree. This was the early concept art:
and this is what we got:
There were pages of posts railing on about it. Inevitably Monsters won’t end up with every element featured in the concept art and people will call it out. That’s fine, but it does miss the point of the art.
WorldExplorer
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And the waterfall hasn't been on in a long time...
Attempting to get back on topic, its bittersweet that they found a way for door coaster to not replace anything in muppets courtyard. Sure, it’ll be a net capacity increase, but muppetvision could’ve been saved.
Honestly, my heart aches that sesame street’s American theme park rights are stuck with seaworld. Maybe its the armchair imagineer and muppets fan in me speaking, but if Disney had Sesame Street rights, i think the potential was there for a good “General Jim Henson” land, as the “Muppety city” theme could be expanded upon, and couldve been a really nice celebration of jim’s work. If only…
In my mind: Keep Rizzo and MV3D, Maybe stick a Sesame Street Version of “Ride and Go Seek” from japan back where door coaster is, Theme the old Christmas store to “Mr Hooper’s Store” and theme everything else generally muppets stuff. Stick a “Cookie Monster” themed stand that sells cookies and birdseed milkshakes or something. I think that could've been nice. Just me though.
Honestly, my heart aches that sesame street’s American theme park rights are stuck with seaworld. Maybe its the armchair imagineer and muppets fan in me speaking, but if Disney had Sesame Street rights, i think the potential was there for a good “General Jim Henson” land, as the “Muppety city” theme could be expanded upon, and couldve been a really nice celebration of jim’s work. If only…
In my mind: Keep Rizzo and MV3D, Maybe stick a Sesame Street Version of “Ride and Go Seek” from japan back where door coaster is, Theme the old Christmas store to “Mr Hooper’s Store” and theme everything else generally muppets stuff. Stick a “Cookie Monster” themed stand that sells cookies and birdseed milkshakes or something. I think that could've been nice. Just me though.
JMcMahonEsq
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Who would be entitled to hold Disney "accountable" and what exactly are they going to hold them accountable for?
Seriously Disney puts out ideas, sneak previews, about future plans. These aren't contracts, they aren't binding agreements. They are teasers, nothing more. They don't owe the general public anything as far as timing for construction, scheduling, what it costs, what changes are made during design and during construction, what might be value engineered, ect.
Whoever Disney gets to build the ride will have a contract. There will be a CPM schedule for completion, and a mechanism for enforcement to hold them accountable for hitting the agreed upon deadlines.
There is a world of difference between the two. Disney putting out information to the public for advertising isn't a binding agreement that any should think entitles them to either updates/future information, or that Disney is someonehow held to doing exactly what they said they were going to do/build.
Disstevefan1
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A previous post said folks on these boards hold Disney accountable for what is released in their concept drawings I simply said Disney is never held accountable for anything and folks just make excuses and blame fans for having expectations.
You are correct, Disney will do what Disney will do and nothing said on these boards matter.
New hotels, like a new gate, is all expenses and no revenue until it opens. And so, there is a monetary incentive to build them as fast as possible.
A new ride in a 365 day theme park that's already making a big profit doesn't need to be built as fast as possible. The park is already profitable. There is little incentive to build a new ride as fast as possible. And if you don't have all the cash on hand to build it, you slow-build as profits build up to afford finishing the project.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Now that is a legit gripe.
I have much less of a problem with ”stuff” being cut out between early concept art and opening and much more of a problem with show effects and ride elements not operating as they should. Disney literally made a name for themselves in the theme park space by being over the top with attention to detail so it baffles me when I see things like that.
GoofGoof
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