News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

JohnD

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It will be a success 100%. But I think you missed what the root of why people are upset. It's not because of monsters. It's the removal of Muppet vision when it wasn't needed. I've on the boards nearly 20yrs now. I've supported the door coaster from the very first rumors. And I still do. It's not a schtick being upset the muppet vision is going away. If people are saying monsters is going to fail, yea, that's a schtick. But I'm not sure I've seen that at all.
I just wish the announcement for Monsters was coupled with what's happening to MV3D to put finality to it. The announcement of retheming RnRC is nice but still doesn't answer where MV3D is going, if anywhere.
 

ToTBellHop

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I just wish the announcement for Monsters was coupled with what's happening to MV3D to put finality to it. The announcement of retheming RnRC is nice but still doesn't answer where MV3D is going, if anywhere.
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Blobbles

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I just wish the announcement for Monsters was coupled with what's happening to MV3D to put finality to it. The announcement of retheming RnRC is nice but still doesn't answer where MV3D is going, if anywhere.
I still want to know the purpose or point of their “exploring creative discussions about preservations”. What that says to me is that they aren’t committed to one idea yet and will not be for a long time.
 

Blobbles

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No. We'll see what they are going to do. One option as @ToTBellHop puts it is to trash the whole thing. Another option is moving it to somewhere else in HS. A third option is another park not in WDW. Who knows? We'll see.
Listen dude, I know you have hope but i dunno. I know Disney and Jim Henson company have talked about preservation in their PR Statments, and the Disney Dish Guys said the other day they’ve heard stuff about conversations about moving muppetvision, but i dunno man. It looks to be pretty over. It is kidna cowardly to not say the full fate of MV3D tho. Just bite the bullet and say it already.
 

JohnD

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Listen dude, I know you have hope but i dunno. I know Disney and Jim Henson company have talked about preservation in their PR Statments, and the Disney Dish Guys said the other day they’ve heard stuff about conversations about moving muppetvision, but i dunno man. It looks to be pretty over.
Then that gets back to finality, doesn't it? Just say it's being "preserved for the archives" or moved to Disney+ or whatever and not returning as a show. Why leave us hanging? That's all I'm saying.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
More popular than that existing corner of the park. Higher guest numbers and guest spending on retail and dining. Overall park GSATs rise. Enhanced Lightning Lane revenue. Bob adds new tile backsplash in his home’s 5th bathroom.
While all of that is true, they don't seem to understand that not every attraction needs to have long waits. Parks needs to walk on attractions too.
 

Blobbles

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Then that gets back to finality, doesn't it? Just say it's being "preserved for the archives" or moved to Disney+ or whatever and not returning as a show. Why leave us hanging? That's all I'm saying.
Me too. That’s all I want. They were quick about roa, the fact that this has been drawn out even now is damning in my eyes that there are a lot of internal disagreements about muppetvision closing.
 

JohnD

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Me too. That’s all I want. They were quick about roa, the fact that this has been drawn out even now is damning in my eyes that there are a lot of internal disagreements about muppetvision closing.
The issue is comments from Disney and Jim Henson Company about the "future iteration" or whatever. That strings us along but doesn't close the loop. Close it already.
 

erasure fan1

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That being said, this is the thread about Monsters Land so I think it’s fair game for people to speculate about what was actually announced, what type of show it will be, what the restaurants will be like….etc, without the same couple people (not talking about you here) shouting down the discussion and insisting there won’t be a show at all.
I get that. But it works both ways. There's that same type of group who when someone questions Disney, they shout it down. Personally I'm not sure how anyone could question someone thinking it might not happen. The track record is clearly on the side of things not happening. As I've said, I think most don't want to be inherently negative.
 

The Leader of the Club

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I get that. But it works both ways. There's that same type of group who when someone questions Disney, they shout it down. Personally I'm not sure how anyone could question someone thinking it might not happen. The track record is clearly on the side of things not happening. As I've said, I think most don't want to be inherently negative.

I just think that we’re eyeballing the wrong part of the announcements for what “may not happen.”
Muppets in RNRC feels more “Play pavilion” to me than the show. I don’t think they would announce that MuppetVision is closing unless they knew what was going in there. Especially with how much they have bend over backwards to avoid the backlash from closing it. I feel like, if they didn’t already have a replacement for MuppetVision, they wouldn’t have announced it’s closing.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I get that. But it works both ways. There's that same type of group who when someone questions Disney, they shout it down. Personally I'm not sure how anyone could question someone thinking it might not happen. The track record is clearly on the side of things not happening. As I've said, I think most don't want to be inherently negative.
I don’t disagree. It would be better if people just let the comments go and moved on to the real discussion but that rarely happens. This Is a discussion forum for Monsters Land coming to DHS so if everyone just agreed it might not happen so nothing to talk about the thread would be 1 or 2 pages long. It would also be counterproductive for anyone discussing the land to start every post with “I know this stuff might not happen” before discussing stuff. To me that's always implied.
 

Blobbles

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The issue is comments from Disney and Jim Henson Company about the "future iteration" or whatever. That strings us along but doesn't close the loop. Close it already.
Yes. I’m sick of the stringing along. COMMIT TO IT. Stand behind it. If you’re gonna throw it on Disney+ throw it on Disney plus. Don’t spend time mulling about conversating about moving theatres if you aren’t serious about it. You already know it’s what people want. If you can’t fufill that want, don’t give people the slightest expectation that it can be fulfilled. I swear the most evil thing they can do is decide it is moving but wait until destination d23 for the crowd PR to announce it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Yes. I’m sick of the stringing along. COMMIT TO IT. Stand behind it. If you’re gonna throw it on Disney+ throw it on Disney plus. Don’t spend time mulling about conversating about moving theatres if you aren’t serious about it. You already know it’s what people want. If you can’t fufill that want, don’t give people the slightest expectation that it can be fulfilled. I swear the most evil thing they can do is decide it is moving but wait until destination d23 for the crowd PR to announce it.
I think if they knew where it was going they would have announced it.

The easiest and probably cheapest option is to move it to imagination pavilion in EPCOT. They could move in the film itself, some of the props from the waiting area and maybe even the 2 old guys. The cannon at the end and some of the physical effects may get cut but it would be most of the show.

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erasure fan1

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Muppets in RNRC feels more “Play pavilion” to me than the show. I don’t think they would announce that MuppetVision is closing unless they knew what was going in there. Especially with how much they have bend over backwards to avoid the backlash from closing it. I feel like, if they didn’t already have a replacement for MuppetVision, they wouldn’t have announced it’s closing.
My only question then would be why do we know absolutely nothing about it? Not even the kind of show that they are planning. And that feels to me, like this was a very last second decision to try and soften the blow of MV closure. I don't think the closure of muppet vision had anything to do with a monsters show. They wanted monsters in the Muppet spot because it will be easier for them. Show or no monsters show they were 86ing the muppets in my opinion.
 

Casper Gutman

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I don’t disagree. It would be better if people just let the comments go and moved on to the real discussion but that rarely happens. This Is a discussion forum for Monsters Land coming to DHS so if everyone just agreed it might not happen so nothing to talk about the thread would be 1 or 2 pages long. It would also be counterproductive for anyone discussing the land to start every post with “I know this stuff might not happen” before discussing stuff. To me that's always implied.
Except you have lots of posts full of, “I’d be really upset about MV3D leaving, but Disney promised a new show and Muppets in RnRC and to ‘preserve’ Muppets, so it’s OK and people getting upset are silly.” Disney’s strategy here is pretty clear.

If folks want to discuss what’s actually happening - MV3D is being removed and a door coaster expansion is being built nearby - great. But until we have significantly more reason to believe that any of the other things are occurring, factoring them in distorts the picture. Ignoring Disney’s behavior over the last two decades doesn’t produce meaningful discussion.
 

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