News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

TheMaxRebo

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flyerjab said:
This update to this part of the park was needed. God bless the folks that can see the Muppets show 100 times and not get bored. We were pretty much done with that part of the park. And we haven’t eaten in Mama Melrose’s in a decade or more. Same with Rizzo’s. This part of the park needed to change. And they are still preserving Muppets in an E-ticket attraction space. I can’t wait for this to happen.
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We did Muppet*Vision most (but not all) trips but never ate a Mama Melrose or PizzaRizzo .... but I showed the plans to my kids and the first thing my son said is "we have to eat at Harryhausens!" - definitely think there will be increased interest in the entire area for the majority of the guests with this change, not just for the Monsters coaster, than the current version
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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flyerjab said:
God bless the folks that can see the Muppets show 100 times and not get bored. We were pretty much done with that part of the park. And we haven’t eaten in Mama Melrose’s in a decade or more. Same with Rizzo’s.
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We love muppet vision and will hate to see it go. The problem with all shows, is if you aren't a big fan of the property, you generally get bored with it. The biggest problem with this area, is everything around it. Melrose has never been more than Olive garden quality. And pizza rizzos barely qualifies as pizza. Also the courtyard has gotten worse. The fountain is a shell of what it was. And the store has been generic Disney crap for over 15yrs. And the muppet stuff they did have was relegated to a small corner and wasn't very good.

So it's easy to say the area is dead and people aren't going there. And that's true to a point. We go each time we are in the studios. We watch Muppet vision, then leave. But that's what happens when you neglect an area.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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HuckleBerryFin said:
It’s still surprising how millions have been spent and this is still the worst traffic flows of any WDW park..
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It's a side effect of how it was built from the beginning to be mostly inaccessible for guests unless it was a guided walking or tram tour. Now the "Studios" section is gone, but the original park hub is no longer its true center and we're left with an attempt to create a loop around various backstage buildings and dead end streets originating from said hub.
 
Starship824

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Having thought about this whole situation. I am actually starting to become more and more okay with what's happening even if a lot of people aren't but let's be honest, even if it did go into animation courtyard, it would have only bought us a few more years. Is it a travesty that animation courtyard is still the way it is and probably won't change for a very long time. Absolutely, but at this point I've just come to learn that there is no point in getting upset about all this stuff. Theme parks will close attractions that we all love. We're all just going to have to live with it. But hey, at least we're actually gaining attraction count at Hollywood Studios and the muppets get to stay. Although I will add that this definitely doesn't bode well for Daddy Josh as hardcore fans are not happy with him right now and if he continues on this path of addition by subtraction then he's just going to learn the hard way from fans that they're not going to like him and he's just going to have to deal with that.
 
sedati

sedati

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SpectreJordan said:
I was with you until this. Villains Land makes as much sense thematically as Fantasyland; infact it's just going to be the evil version of Fantasyland unless they put stuff like Zurg or Darth Vader in it.
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They need to dust off the.old replacement for the Great Movie Ride based on heroes vs villains that would have given us such scenes as Indiana Jones vs Darth Vader by utilizing Disney’s CAVE technology which was sort of a precursor to the Volume. No reason it couldn’t be done elsewhere in the park.
 
J.E.Smith

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While moving Muppet Vision to Sunset would be ideal, another new Muppet feature they could do in that space could be an abridged version of the Muppet live shows they did at the Hollywood Bowl and the 02 a few years back (albeit without a guest star)
 
LSLS

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Mr. Sullivan said:
The park just finished a massive period of development less than 5 years ago. It isn’t like this is the first addition HS has seen in ages. I’m not saying this is the perfect utilization of the funding but this is simultaneous 3 park development and this park has been completely transformed very recently. I would 100% be on board with you if this was all happening in isolation but it isn’t. This isn’t a HS only developmental period. It’s also known to those with the access that a whole other area is on the verge of redevelopment (AC).
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But there lies the problem. I haven't gone back to find it, but I believe DHS has LESS attractions than it had like 25-30 years ago (or at least the same amount maybe?). The problem is the development period you are talking about was a net negative from an attractions perspective. And that's what gets people mad. I love MV3D. Had they built stuff out, and just decided due to age, it was time, I'd be sad. I'd be upset. But I'd get it. I can argue all day at the quality of the transformation, but the bottom line is that the transformation is not adding capacity to improve guest experience. I'm glad this is at least adding something with this, but they need a lot more stuff.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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LSLS said:
But there lies the problem. I haven't gone back to find it, but I believe DHS has LESS attractions than it had like 25-30 years ago (or at least the same amount maybe?). The problem is the development period you are talking about was a net negative from an attractions perspective. And that's what gets people mad. I love MV3D. Had they built stuff out, and just decided due to age, it was time, I'd be sad. I'd be upset. But I'd get it. I can argue all day at the quality of the transformation, but the bottom line is that the transformation is not adding capacity to improve guest experience. I'm glad this is at least adding something with this, but they need a lot more stuff.
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Exactly. This change doesn’t help the park at all, it just creates higher guest spending in one area- LLs for the rollercoaster and higher food prices at the restaurant(s). Capacity will go up by one attraction, but after years for being down 2 to 3, counting RnR. Plus it’s another height requirement in a park that barely has any family rides. I think aside from MuppetVision, it’s just the other stage shows and Alien Swirling Saucers (another unfortunate acronym lol)?
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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LSLS said:
Had they built stuff out, and just decided due to age, it was time, I'd be sad. I'd be upset. But I'd get it. I can argue all day at the quality of the transformation, but the bottom line is that the transformation is not adding capacity to improve guest experience. I'm glad this is at least adding something with this, but they need a lot more stuff.
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This is really the root of the problem. If the park had no more room, I get it. But we aren't there yet. And that is what really makes it worse. It's the same issue with replacing great movie ride. It boils down to what's the path of least resistance, customer be damned.
 
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wdwfan22 said:
Pokémon is going to where Springfield is, however there are rumors for floating for replacing super hero island.
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I've also heard that Universal can't change the land without approval. Only maintain. So it's essentially stuck exactly as it is with the only thing being refurbs. Even character costumes cant be updated without approval(that i know for fact cause i have a friend in Universal Entertainment). And Disney has no incentive to approve an expansion or change of it.

At some point, I do believe Universal will find more value in changing it to something else rather than keeping it as is. There is a lot of value in keeping the rights away from Disney. But Universal's product has continued to get stronger and stronger. They don't need to handcuff Disney to compete anymore.

Spiderman might be the best ride I've been on, but I feel like denying the possibility Universal would ever change that land is foolish.
 
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Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Grantwil93 said:
I've also heard that Universal can't change the land without approval. Only maintain. So it's essentially stuck exactly as it is with the only thing being refurbs. Even character costumes cant be updated without approval(that i know for fact cause i have a friend in Universal Entertainment). And Disney has no incentive to approve an expansion or change of it.

At some point, I do believe Universal will find more value in changing it to something else rather than keeping it as is. There is a lot of value in keeping the rights away from Disney. But Universal's product has continued to get stronger and stronger. They don't need to handcuff Disney to compete anymore.

Spiderman might be the best ride I've been on, but I feel like denying the possibility Universal would ever change that land is foolish.
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Universal can do whatever they want with the Marvel characters they control. The contract is exceptionally generous to Universal because Marvel was desperate and nearly dead when they agreed to it.

The contract is online. You can read it. MARVEL IS NOT LEAVING UNIVERSAL. You might as well fantasize about Disney getting the rights to Jurassic Park.
 

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