News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Gusey]

Muppets is getting evicted because Disney doesn’t want to pay to run it (and because every ride needs a land, but mostly the money thing).

Monsters Inc does have one musical number. One. Perhaps they’ll pay to write all new songs for a puppet intensive show, but I’m skeptical - especially since they just chopped up Nemo.

I also don’t think they’ll do a major show based on an intentionally terrible musical that appeared as a credits gag.

Whatever show ends up here does need to live up to Muppet Vision, and Rogers the Musical shows they can make a whole new theater show with multiple songs, for a show that only lasted 3 months. This is also going to be the third new show they're developing for this park and probably the one they need to get right the most

 

[The Leader of the Club]

I am have always been of the opinion that Disney and Universal should stick to what they excel at.

Universal is at its best with themed thrills and picking up the guests Disney misses.

Disney should stick to being the family market and highly immersive dark rides.

I think they need to add some dark rides after this wave. Encanto will be great, but I think we can add some more.

Put a Stitch ride in Tomorrowland. Expand world showcase. Add an omnimover to Animation Courtyard. That needs to be the second half of this decade of investment

 

[SpectreJordan]

Somewhat interesting that Disney seemingly paid attention to the backlash they received around the D23 announcements when it seemed like Muppets would be on the chopping block, but instead of saving the show they decided what people wanted was for the Muppets to take over another ride in the park. One that does not at all fit the Muppets vibe (an inverted launch coaster muppets ride?) As usual a decision that makes nobody happy.

I actually think that fits the chaotic nature of the Muppets a lot, especially the Electric Mayhem who are some of the most chaotic Muppets.

The main issue is the height requirement which means this won't be a kid friendly Muppet attraction.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

I actually think that fits the chaotic nature of the Muppets a lot, especially the Electric Mayhem who are some of the most chaotic Muppets.

The main issue is the height requirement which means this won't be a kid friendly Muppet attraction.

What if we get a Muppet flat ride over here? Say, a rethemed TriCeratops Spin?

 

[SpectreJordan]

What if we get a Muppet flat ride over here? Say, a rethemed TriCeratops Spin?

That'd be great. Maybe they could be chickens.

 

[Indy_UK]

Studios desperately needs come small rides like spinners. Toy Story land would be perfect place to expand out and add those.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Whatever show ends up here does need to live up to Muppet Vision, and Rogers the Musical shows they can make a whole new theater show with multiple songs, for a show that only lasted 3 months. This is also going to be the third new show they're developing for this park and probably the one they need to get right the most

For Pete’s sake, Disney doesn’t NEED to get anything right!

Tiana should have FINALLY put this nonsense to bed… if the previous two decades hadn’t.

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

I just wish fans had ANY sort of accumulated memory. We go through the same thing over and over and over. Everyone’s always shocked! And forgets a month later.

 

[CJR]

Honestly, I'm disappointed, but our complaining did get them to add a second attraction by keeping the theater a show. They heard us and responded to it, so I'm grateful for that. I wish they heard us a little more, but maybe they'll surprise me and find a way to truly keep MV alive (I don't believe Vision Pro is a long term way to to do that).

Focusing just on the Monster's Inc area, I actually like it personally. The second show attraction could be fun, no doubt music based from the look of the art work. So it takes away a top criticism of mine -the height requirement.

One thing to note, they might be able to keep MV:3D open for a bit, while constructing the door coaster. Most of the work on the theater will be pretty minor, so it could be a Dinoland-like situation.

 

[Chi84]

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

A lot of people love Disney - no excuses needed.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I am have always been of the opinion that Disney and Universal should stick to what they excel at.

Universal is at its best with themed thrills and picking up the guests Disney misses.

Disney should stick to being the family market and highly immersive dark rides.

The best traditional dark ride in the US since MGM opened is Off the Leash at Universal Hollywood (even if they did foul up the restraints).

 

[Casper Gutman]

A lot of people love Disney - no excuses needed.

Uncritically “loving” a brand regardless of their behavior is weird… and terrible for the brand.

 

[Gusey]

For Pete’s sake, Disney doesn’t NEED to get anything right!

Tiana should have FINALLY put this nonsense to bed… if the previous two decades hadn’t.

No one will punish Disney. No one will hurt their bottom line. Fans will keep making excuses.

I just wish fans had ANY sort of accumulated memory. We go through the same thing over and over and over. Everyone’s always shocked! And forgets a month later.

Maybe right was the wrong word because it's all subjective and some people genuinely prefer Tiana's to Splash. I just feel like this Monsters show needs to be good enough to justify closing Muppets instead of just keeping Muppets and PizzeRizzo on Grand Avenue and making Monsters from Mama Melrose and the expansion pad. Of all three new shows:

• Villains is replacing a single animatronic 10-minute Car show
• Little Mermaid is an update to a show that has been closed since
• Monsters Show is replacing the last truly immersive 4D show at a Disney Park combining 3D with animatronics and a live actor and the whole theater changing throughout the show

 

[Chi84]

Uncritically “loving” a brand regardless of their behavior is weird… and terrible for the brand.

How about enjoying Disney the way it is now?

 

[Jrb1979]

The best traditional dark ride in the US since MGM opened is Off the Leash at Universal Hollywood (even if they did foul up the restraints).

Agreed but for some reason neither Universal or Disney seems interested in making those type of attractions much anymore. I also think your average guest isn't interested in them anymore either. If you look, most new attractions are either coasters or have some physical thrill to them. Even Remy has some thrill to it.

 

[UNCgolf]

Folks like to bring up Uni, and yes, they are much too overly reliant on thrill rides. But Uni was built with the idea that they would emphasize thrills and pick up the guests Disney missed. Now that they are competing directly with Disney they need to pivot off that philosophy and they’ve been slow to do so. Disney, however, has pivoted… to Universal’s ride philosophy. This is despite the fact that they became industry leader with a philosophy of accessibility.

I don't think Uni was built with that idea -- they didn't really have any major thrill rides (no coasters at all) until Islands of Adventure opened. I'd agree they were generally targeted towards an older age group, but I think they could still be experienced by almost anyone regardless of age.

If anything, I'd say the original USF lineup was an attempt to surpass Disney with storytelling/physical effects driven attractions like Jaws, E.T., and Kongfrontation.

They definitely pivoted to that later, though, and started building a bunch of coasters and simulators.

 

[Homemade Imagineering]

Second best alternative to simply leaving MV3D alone, is the 1:1 re-location to Sunset Showcase w the new RNRC, and Monsters/Stitch are both gutted and replaced with some sort of darkride (Wall-E or smth along those lines could work well)

 

[celluloid]

Agreed but for some reason neither Universal or Disney seems interested in making those type of attractions much anymore. I also think your average guest isn't interested in them anymore either. If you look, most new attractions are either coasters or have some physical thrill to them. Even Remy has some thrill to it.

There is certainly an audience taste thst comes into play.

But one expects Disney's park to have more variety and low requirement to no requirement option than Universal's.
Appeal and quality aside, Universal Studios currently has more to do for rides and shows for the 34 inch and non coaster fan crowd.
And the new Wicked store shows they are not abandoning the tribute to behind the scenes and movie making.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Time to Read the Len Tea leaves...

• There is another shoe to drop
• Not Indy, ToT or Animation courtyard
• Something that isn't generating LL sales...

I only see a few attractions left:

• Beauty and the Beast
• Fantasmic
• Frozen
• Star Tours
• Vacation Fun

Of these, BATB is on a huge plot of land, Frozen and Vacation Fun share a building, and Star Tours would be easy to re-theme... Although aren't we supposed to get an Asoka update soon?

My money is on BATB.

Don't they sell dining packages for Fantasmic? I can see that making as much money as LLs for some rides; I imagine Fantasmic will be safe for a long time.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

So we get an attraction, and lose an attraction.



A complete disgrace.

We’re technically still gaining an attraction if I’m mapping this out correctly. RnRC stays but with a retheme. MuppetVision theater stays with a different show. Add in the Villains show and that means the attraction count at HS is the same as it is now. But then we have the door coaster being added which gives the park a +1.

 

[SpectreJordan]

I don't think Disney intends to relocate MV3D, by preserve I would presume they meant it's going to Disney+. If they were going to relocate it, I don't see why they wouldn't have just said that.

Maybe there's active discussions about it? I could see the RnRC redo being something they've decided on post-D23 after they realized people really want the Muppets to stay. So perhaps they're still deciding on MV's fate too.