DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[lazyboy97o]

We also discuss this a lot on here, but replacing a poorly performing attraction with something more popular is a capacity addition

No, it is not. This is just a rationalization that keeps getting repeated.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Well now that it’s settled and we know Muppets 3D will be destroyed, we have only a 5 to 7 year wait to see what replaces it

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

I literally work with the guy and know him personally now, and I can tell you this is false. He will be negative if he wants to. It's okay if you don't like the guy, I'm not saying you have to, but assuming he is always positive is false.

Why is he so wishy washy on Splash?

 

[doctornick]

I will say that since the structure of Monstropolis fits the footprint well, this should help with a relatively quicker build for Monsters. The door coaster is going to be built essentially on backstage land/parking so could be started quite quickly. Pizzerizzo and Mama Melrose will simply be changed to a different restaurant theme but presumably continue to be largely intact. The Christmas store gets converted to other retail. The large Muppets store just gets torn down (and its in a weird position anyway). Muppetvision gets changed into a new show but presumable can reuse the theater largely as is.

The rest of Grand Avenue outside the Muppet area (Sci-Fi and such) can simply remain as is and not be touched.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Why is he so wishy washy on Splash?

What do you mean by wishy washy? He liked the original ride but also likes the new one. He was very vocal with his "let them cook" attitude. His opinion never changed much past the initial announcement, aside from feeling it didn't fit in Frontierland, which iirc he still feels that way but isn't as bothered by it.

 

[Incomudro]

No kids know who Aerosmith is either. This is essentially a lateral move to something with more relevance to ppl on a Disney Vacation and a better merchandising opportunity.

It's a cheap retheme for probably a fairly big boost to interest in the ride. It makes sense on paper. It's just not a bombastic expensive retheme. It's kinda refreshing to see them do this

The cool kids know Aerosmith.

 

[Andrew C]

The cool kids know Aerosmith.

Mick Jagger, right?

 

[Casper Gutman]

MuppetVision is busy because the park is underdeveloped, but that's not an excuse to keep it. This land will be better utilized, attended, and more guest spending will occur. For a business, which its sole purpose is to make money... it makes sense.

The question becomes what do they do with AC.

Putting aside the reasons I think you’re wrong from a purely business perspective… I absolutely do not care if an area of the park maximizes guest spending or in any other way fattens Disneys wallet. Frankly, it’s a weird and possibly unhealthy way for a fan - a consumer - to think.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Why is he so wishy washy on Splash?

Tom loved the attraction that shall not be named and admits Tiana is not as good, but he is very much in favor with the social justice reasons why it was erased from existence.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Monstropolis will be a net-positive, the Door-Coaster is a brand new attraction, and seems to be expanding the park berm. We also discuss this a lot on here, but replacing a poorly performing attraction with something more popular is a capacity addition, as the capacity at MV3D is mostly going unused.

Is that why MV3D was 2/3 full on a random day in September, which is typically a slow month? It must only be unused during the busy times, then.

 

[Incomudro]

They could do a Muppets Hollywood Tower of Terror movie/overlay too. Get rid of Twilight Zone finally. Gonzo and Rizzo are the bellhops.

Please no.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Tom loved the attraction that shall not be named and admits Tiana is not as good, but he is very much in favor with the social justice reasons why it was erased from existence.

The man who shall not be named from the site that shall not be named loved the ride that shall not be named based on the movie that shall not be named!

 

[Casper Gutman]

A new CEO takes control in 2026. Economic policy changes beginning in 2025 are going to cause the cost of construction to skyrocket and may crater the economy as a whole. Nothing that is slated to begin construction after 2025 should be considered close to certain - no Villains Land, no phase 2s, no Muppets Coaster, nothing.

Remember what the pandemic did to the Epcot redo in particular and the last wave of significant investments into the parks in general? The current situation is even worse, because the disruption is forseeable.

 

[Incomudro]

To me, Muppets ToT is seamless. The characters can fit right in. Just redo the film to have muppets instead of people. It would also be less scary (not that it is), and more family friendly. Gonzo and Rizzo do the pre-show, Miss Piggy and others are the guests who are zapped.

Exactly why it shouldn't be done.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Putting aside the reasons I think you’re wrong from a purely business perspective… I absolutely do not care if an area of the park maximizes guest spending or in any other way fattens Disneys wallet. Frankly, it’s a weird and possibly unhealthy way for a fan - a consumer - to think.

I'm just being as realistic as possible here. We were all born into this capitalistic world, it is what it is. This is what 2024 corporations do.

That's capitalism baby!

 

[ednamodedarling]

Exactly why it shouldn't be done.

Oof which is exactly why something probably is going to happen to TOT. I will be sooooo sad. But it is about to be the only attraction without a Disney IP attached in the park.

Though this would arguably be worse than the Rivers of America situation. Please don't touch TOT.

 

[JohnD]

They could do a Muppets Hollywood Tower of Terror movie/overlay too. Get rid of Twilight Zone finally. Gonzo and Rizzo are the bellhops.

What do you mean by "get rid of Twilight Zone finally"? I hope the theme always stays. Hollywood Tower of Terror in Hollywood Studios. I mean, come on! Look, I loved my cruise on the Fantasy last year but maybe you should stick to Disney cruises.

 

[Incomudro]

Mick Jagger, right?

Rock kids.

 

[DavidDL]

MuppetVision is busy because the park is underdeveloped, but that's not an excuse to keep it. This land will be better utilized, attended, and more guest spending will occur. For a business, which its sole purpose is to make money... it makes sense.

The question becomes what do they do with AC.

Excuse me? Sole purpose? I think it was Walt himself who said something to the effect of, "We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money"

I realize this is technically the 3rd park built for Disney World but in any case, for you or the bean counters at Disney to believe any given park tied to the Disney name should have the sole purpose to (or be "better off") just cranking out dollar bills, then both you and them have missed the entirety of Walt's vision for the Guest.

Muppet*Vision 3D is a work of art. It's an incredible show with great humor, wonderful animatronics, in-theatre effects, and a live performer, tied to an amazing 3D film headed by a creative visionary that has inspired generations as his final gift to us. That is why it is busy and that is more than enough reason to keep it.

But what? This land will be better served because Disney is going to be able to sell more Mike Wazowski merch? The absolute nerve.

Welcome to the ignore list.

 

[Disstevefan1]

A new CEO takes control in 2026. Economic policy changes beginning in 2025 are going to cause the cost of construction to skyrocket and may crater the economy as a whole. Nothing that is slated to begin construction after 2025 should be considered close to certain - no Villains Land, no phase 2s, no Muppets Coaster, nothing.

Remember what the pandemic did to the Epcot redo in particular and the last wave of significant investments into the parks in general? The current situation is even worse, because the disruption is forseeable.

Maybe Iger will put a hold on everything for 4 years starting Jan 20, 2025 and blame it on orangemanbad