DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Mike S]

I don't think Disney intends to relocate MV3D, by preserve I would presume they meant it's going to Disney+. If they were going to relocate it, I don't see why they wouldn't have just said that.

Put it on Disney+ using this as a starting point.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

So are they saying that the Muppets are “hosting” the coaster and the music is going to rotate? Is it all going to be the same? Each car will have a different song?

Maybe they can build the coaster so that you select the song when you get in. And then they can have some kind of muppets "secret track." Something fun, like Rainbow Connection or something.

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

This tells me, Disney never has any long term plan for anything and whatever happens, happens and Disney is just does stuff randomly, so even for stuff they announce and create concept drawings for may never happen or may be greatly changed.

It was obvious when Tiana's was announced since it was such a sudden knee jerk reaction and they had one single piece of artwork drawn without putting any planning into it.

 

[CaptinEO]

Put it on Disney+ using this as a starting point.
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We need Captain EO. George Lucas, Michael Jackson, Coppola. Legendary.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Maybe they can build the coaster so that you select the song when you get in. And then they can have some kind of muppets "secret track." Something fun, like Rainbow Connection or something.

They’re not going to do any extensive work to RnRc. Just a retheme

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Well, now. That last bit is really good news. If Monsters gets a show in addition to the coaster, we have an actual increase in attraction numbers. A good sign.

Lol, wait till you guys hear about the plans for Star Tours.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I dunno... to me the target demographic of the Muppets was always adults. If you look at the guests they had, the songs, the jokes, they always skewed to older audiences. Hence the decision to introduce a completely different cast when they made a show targeted to younger audiences (Sesame Street).

And then Disney decided once Muppets 2015 failed (imo I loved it) that the Muppets would be purely for kids now. There's a series they have where the adult Muppets (not the Muppet Babies) interact with small children and teach them pseudo-Seasame Street stuff.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

My understanding is it's a much more short-term thing. Think about what they could throw into a park with just a few months of planning, that doesn't involve major construction or WDI.

Ooh, a new popcorn bucket?

 

[Grantwil93]

This. It's not just "an old Muppet show", it's LITERALLY the last time Jim Henson ever performed as Kermit. It's his last project. The fact Iger sees no value in that is disgusting.

I'm pretty sure he looks at it like this(for the record, I was fully on the team of hoping this went to Animation Courtyard.)
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Mama melrose becomes Harry Hausen's(which will be booked far stronger for years to come off the theme alone)

New state of the art coaster

New Monsters Show

New Quick service(retheme of PizzaRizzo, which is not popular at all atm despite the memes)

Reopening of large shops and new merch opportunities

New theme for a classic coaster that preserves the Muppet IP in the parks and is more easily updateable with relevant music and will provide a boost in popularity in the short term. An idea that was incredibly popular online for years. Probably only behind a Powerline based retheme.

VS

Losing Muppet vision 3d. A phenomenal yet not highly visited theater show that has been there since the park opened.

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I can't blame them at all. I really can't. As much as it pains me to admit that.

 

[ToTBellHop]

My understanding is it's a much more short-term thing. Think about what they could throw into a park with just a few months of planning, that doesn't involve major construction or WDI.

Bob Iger Farewell Tour M&G confirmed! I get to hug him first!

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Yes. I am just stating fact. He must go lighter on Disney to stay on the media list.

HE WILL rationalize Disney's actions. Its good for his business.

I literally work with the guy and know him personally now, and I can tell you this is false. He will be negative if he wants to. It's okay if you don't like the guy, I'm not saying you have to, but assuming he is always positive is false.

 

[Indy_UK]

Lol, wait till you guys hear about the plans for Star Tours.

Don’t be a tease, spill the beans

 

[Blobbles]

Lol, wait till you guys hear about the plans for Star Tours.

If it’s futurama I’m going to jump for joy

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I'm pretty sure he looks at it like this(for the record, I was fully on the team of hoping this went to Animation Courtyard.
.....

Mama melrose becomes Harry Hausen's(which will be booked far stronger for years to come off the theme alone)

New state of the art coaster

New Monsters Show

New Quick service(retheme of PizzaRizzo, which is not popular at all atm despite the memes)

Reopening of large shops and new merch opportunities

New them for a classic coaster that preserves the Muppet IP in the parks and is more easily updateable with relevant music and will provide a boost in popularity in tbe short term. An idea that was incredibly popular online for years. Probably only behind a Powerline based retheme.

VS

Losing Muppet vision 3d. A phenomenal yet not highly visited theater show that has been there since the park opened.

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I can't blame them at all. I really can't. As much as it pains me to admit that.

I totally get it from a business perspective, because Iger is a businessman. He's not a creative, and that's what's hurting the parks imo, everything is calculated to maximize profits. Back in the day, Imagineers did things because they thought people would enjoy them. You think they built an entire Country Bear Jamboree land at Disneyland because it was a good business decision? Definitely not, they did it just because they wanted to and because people (in Florida) liked the bears. Nowadays you'd be hard-pressed for a parks replacement (because we don't do additions anymore lmao) that wasn't calculated to be the most profitable outcome possible.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I literally work with the guy and know him personally now, and I can tell you this is false. He will be negative if he wants to. It's okay if you don't like the guy, I'm not saying you have to, but assuming he is always positive is false.

Wrong assumption on your part, I like the guy and like his videos, I commend you on your defense of him.

I am just saying, once he was allowed back on the media list, his commentary has changed.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Will FAM fix the stuff in Dinosaur even when we know its going to get torn down?

To be fair, they weren't going to fix it even when they didn't know it was going to be torn down.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Nowadays you'd be hard-pressed for a parks replacement (because we don't do additions anymore lmao) that wasn't calculated to be the most profitable outcome possible.

Monstropolis will be a net-positive, the Door-Coaster is a brand new attraction, and seems to be expanding the park berm. We also discuss this a lot on here, but replacing a poorly performing attraction with something more popular is a capacity addition, as the capacity at MV3D is mostly going unused.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

New Monsters Show

Can’t really argue against any of your comment, just highlighted this one line because my initial thought was they’ll likely just bring over the Monsters laugh floor from MK and call it a day. It will fit much better in a Monsters land theater and will be a dirt cheap replacement.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Put it on Disney+ using this as a starting point.
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I'd be fine with this if there weren't gags entirely dependent on being in the theater.

What they should do is film a 4K 360 degree recording of the attraction that you can either use a remote to move the camera around, or use VR. Add a walkthrough of the queue and pre-show and it's perfect.

The only sad part is that the ORIGINAL queue and land is lost to time and likely has little to no documentation. All the little gags lost to time, lol

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Do people who complain about Tom even watch any of his videos? (I already know the answer to that, it's no)

I watch all of his videos and am a fan and this was a big letdown. He was **absolutely sure** and assured his audiences that his sources were ironclad and this was 100 percent going into Animation Courtyard and I believed him. He probably should have hedged a bit.

And to be clear, I don't think he's a shill, and I agreed with his Tiana's reviews, and generally agree with most of what he produces. This was just surprising because, again, he was just so sure.