Monorail Yellow

[WDWfreak89]

hey tyler, how many monorails are there and what are there colors?

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by WDWfreak89
hey tyler, how many monorails are there and what are there colors?

12

Red, Blue, Green, Orange, Yellow, Black, Pink, Purple, Gold, Silver, Coral, Lime.

 

[Invero]

Well... due to recent events... (Can't really say what, just yet...) I'm thinking that Monorail Blue will be the next to receive the new Monitoring system.

 

[BalooChicago]

I wonder if the new Vegas trains are helping to upgrade the Disney ones (i.e. Bombardier had to build something for the new trains there (Same basic design as WDW) and I wonder if these are carryovers?) It'll be interesting to see how the vegas loop works (There are some differences, the doors open in instead of out, and the trains are automated) Hopefully Disney expands in some fashion in the near future, though I probably would rather see a new take on a theme than a reuse of existing (expensive) technology.

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
I wonder if the new Vegas trains are helping to upgrade the Disney ones (i.e. Bombardier had to build something for the new trains there (Same basic design as WDW) and I wonder if these are carryovers?) It'll be interesting to see how the vegas loop works (There are some differences, the doors open in instead of out, and the trains are automated) Hopefully Disney expands in some fashion in the near future, though I probably would rather see a new take on a theme than a reuse of existing (expensive) technology.

Think of it this way:

Our Disney trains would be a 1990 Volkswagen Jetta.
The Vegas trains would be a 2004 Volkswagen Jetta.

Compare the two cars, and you'll see many simmilarities. However, you'll also see that they are two totally different vehicles... the newer one posesses many more features and upgraded systems. All components are completely different.

(BTW: the doors don't open inward... instead of plug type doors found on Disney trains, these doors slide flush against the outside body of the train)

 

[BalooChicago]

Well, they look different, but I wonder if the underlying technology is the same.

You can see pictures of what I am talking about here.

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
Well, they look different, but I wonder if the underlying technology is the same.

You can see pictures of what I am talking about here.

Nope... they're completely different.

 

[BalooChicago]

Originally posted by Fantasia Boi
Think of it this way:

Our Disney trains would be a 1990 Volkswagen Jetta.
The Vegas trains would be a 2004 Volkswagen Jetta.

Compare the two cars, and you'll see many simmilarities. However, you'll also see that they are two totally different vehicles... the newer one posesses many more features and upgraded systems. All components are completely different.

(BTW: the doors don't open inward... instead of plug type doors found on Disney trains, these doors slide flush against the outside body of the train)

Hmm... Why are they both considered Mark VIs then? Shouldn't the Vegas Trains be Mark VIIs? If I were Bombardier I think I would have aimed to make the new components component level compatible with the WDW trains as a Marketing ploy to get Disney to buy into an overhaul program, but I guess I'm not Bombardier

Thanks for the clearification about the doors, I went back and I had misread - It's just the front compartment access door that swings in.

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
Hmm... Why are they both considered Mark VIs then? Shouldn't the Vegas Trains be Mark VIIs? If I were Bombardier I think I would have aimed to make the new components component level compatible with the WDW trains as a Marketing ploy to get Disney to buy into an overhaul program, but I guess I'm not Bombardier

Disney's trains are Mark VI trains. The phrase "Mark ##" is copyrighted to Disney. The new Las Vegas train is a Bombardier MVI trains. (Em Vee Eye, I beleive is how it's said)

They are completely different trains... they just happen to look simmilar, and be able to run on the same beamway. Bombardier took the basic Disney design, upgraded it, and turned it into a much better train, suitable for what Vegas will be using it for. They're also looking at bidding for other monorail systems. It wouldn't make sense for them to design something to be compatible with the Mark VI so that we could upgrade -- they want to sell the MVI to many other non-Disney buyers... that means they want to make it as great as possible.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I'll have to take the 1990 model then... somehow the new ones just cant find their way to the MK. Casinos and Adult entertainment sure, but nowhere near the seven seas lagoon.

Gotta go with the classic....

 

[BalooChicago]

Originally posted by Fantasia Boi
Disney's trains are Mark VI trains. The phrase "Mark ##" is copyrighted to Disney. The new Las Vegas train is a Bombardier MVI trains. (Em Vee Eye, I beleive is how it's said)

Well cool, Thanks for the info. Again if I were bombardier, why go with the same beamway if you intend to market it to other groups - If the Disney Beamway is as expensive as it seems it is, why not reinvent the wheel so to speak? That's what I keep wondering about the potential WDW Expansion, if it is the beamway that makes it exhorbitant, why not inovate??

 

[Invero]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
Well cool, Thanks for the info. Again if I were bombardier, why go with the same beamway if you intend to market it to other groups - If the Disney Beamway is as expensive as it seems it is, why not reinvent the wheel so to speak? That's what I keep wondering about the potential WDW Expansion, if it is the beamway that makes it exhorbitant, why not inovate??

Beamway is expensive... period. It doesn't matter what scale it is, or what sized trains run on it. Actually, the beamway used in Vegas and Disney is probably cheaper than the Alweg-style beamway used by Hitachi. Current Vegas beamway is running $95-97 million per mile.

Why did they go with the same sized beamway? Because that's the scale that was already in use. It had to be to the same scale.

As for "re-inventing the wheel"... they did. These beams are superior to the ones used at Disney, thanks to the advance of concrete technology.

 

[monorail_man]

Great pics Tyler. Thanks for the link

 

[monorail_man]

I am guessing that in this picture below the BIG RED button is some sort of emergency stop?

 

[Invero]

Yes.

 

[MonoRon]

Im glad to see they got the touch screen finally working, the mouse was huge and annoying....

also it good to see the front cab being loaded, it was boring being all alone up there before.

 

[marni1971]

Wha....

It seems to be resurrect old thread week! I was waiting for a link in the current thread about Monorail Yellows console.

 

[Poncho1973]

Necrophilia at it's finest!