Monorail/Transportation Idea

[peter11435]

You shouldn't come to conclusiosn about people when you don't know anything about them. You have no idea if someone works in TDA, or in Imagineering, so don't type something until you can prove it.

I don't need to prove where Corrus worked. He has already done that himself. So yes I do have an idea.

 

[nsxdrift_89]

I'd like to know, becuase you are speaking for Corrus. I can prove where in the WDC my family has worked, and the relatioship we have with them.

 

[wannab@dis]

I'd like to know, becuase you are speaking for Corrus. I can prove where in the WDC my family has worked, and the relatioship we have with them.

Oh brother... my daddy can beat up your daddy...

If you continue here and build up a reputation of solid information, then people will not question as easily. The forums have a tendency to bring out the closet 12 year old imagineers so people are leery of newbie information or newbies claiming sources.

If Corrus wishes to reveal his relationship to the company, he will do so. It's not for us to give out that information.

 

[peter11435]

I'd like to know, becuase you are speaking for Corrus. I can prove where in the WDC my family has worked, and the relatioship we have with them.

Ok, so prove where your family has worked.

 

[Nemesis394]

i suppose i could see the addition of one more loop. T&TC to MGM then to Animal kingdom. but if youre hoping for monorail access from EVERY hotel. just forget it. for one theres no way that would be profitable. second one of the main reasons that the monorail is a good thing for the polynesian, the grand floridian and the contemporary, is because theyre so compact. i mean where is there a convenient place to put a monorail station at say port orleans riverside. nowhere. its all spread out and unless they put 4 monorail stations for port orleans like they have 4 bus stops for port orleans you would have to walk wayyyyy to far. i would like to see monorail expansion to at least all of the theme parks. maybe the waterparks... possibly. but having the monorail expanded to every single resort? that would defeat the purpose for the monorail in the first place. walt wanted them there because he saw them as an efficient means of transportation and he wanted to demonstrate them. having them go to every resort means 1 thing. transfer upon transfer upon transfer. it would be like flying to NYC from LA except you transfer at Denver and Chicago in the process. its just flat out inconvenient and time consuming. and the subways in cities dont stop at every building, that would make them lose more time then they save their customers. the most efficient way for this monorail system to operate is to serve the theme parks, the compact, centralized hotels and minutely possibly the water parks. MAYBE

although one expansion that one of the WDW monorail drivers told me on my last trip was already in the planning stages is replacing the marks with modern japanese style monorails. very wide coaches and less space to sit, forcing people to stand and therefore fitting many more people into each car. the only adjustments they would have to make to the track would be to widen the space between the platforms where the track runs. in short bigger trains= more people moved per hour= getting people back to their resorts or to the parks faster= happier customers= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[Thrawn]

although one expansion that one of the WDW monorail drivers told me on my last trip was already in the planning stages is replacing the marks with modern japanese style monorails. very wide coaches and less space to sit, forcing people to stand and therefore fitting many more people into each car. the only adjustments they would have to make to the track would be to widen the space between the platforms where the track runs. in short bigger trains= more people moved per hour= getting people back to their resorts or to the parks faster= happier customers= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Don't listen to rumors from CMs. They usually don't know much about the bigger picture of the company.

There are major problems with the rumor, I'm not going to go into it, but lets keep it simple and say thats not happening.

 

[Nemesis394]

Don't listen to rumors from CMs. They usually don't know much about the bigger picture of the company.

There are major problems with the rumor, I'm not going to go into it, but lets keep it simple and say thats not happening.

why not... making trains that carry more passengers at a time actually sounds like a really good investment

 

[Thrawn]

why not... making trains that carry more passengers at a time actually sounds like a really good investment

Sigh. Fine. I said lets not go into it, but heres two reasons:

1) The monorails can't be made wider. It would unbalanced them on turns and in high winds. To make them wider, you'd have to widen the track, which would cost millions and the track would have to be shut down for a year at least.

2) You can't eliminate all seating. What about small children, people with handicaps, and just extremely tired people?

 

[Nemesis394]

Sigh. Fine. I said lets not go into it, but heres two reasons:

1) The monorails can't be made wider. It would unbalanced them on turns and in high winds. To make them wider, you'd have to widen the track, which would cost millions and the track would have to be shut down for a year at least.

2) You can't eliminate all seating. What about small children, people with handicaps, and just extremely tired people?

high winds?

its central florida! theyre maybe 20 feet in the air! hurricanes... MAYBE!

i didnt say eliminate ALL seating i said eliminate SOME seating. cause if you havent noticed, alot of people, if all seating is taken, will wait for the next one so they can sit and hold up the line

 

[CapnStinxy]

those pesky investors

And honestly, I don't think DISNEY want to spend the money on an expansion.

Urp. Walt Disney died in 1966.

Even if Iger stood at the Transportation and Ticket Center, posing in front of $3 billion in large bills, and proclaimed through a bullhorn, "AS GOD AS MY WITNESS, YOU'LL NEVER RIDE BUSES AGAIN!!!" there would still be that thorny problem of the Walt Disney Co. being a publicly traded entity. With lots of institutional investors. Who are, in the main, joyless, humorless, and focused almost solely on quarterly profits. Were the above scene to play out, these gray men (and women) would send the stock into a most scarifying free-fall. The effect would be only slightly more tame than if Iger were to smear himself with condiments from the bar at Pecos Bill's Cafe and roll around on the floor shrieking, "I'M THE WORLD'S BIGGEST HOT DOG!!!!!!"

 

[Connor002]

My comment was directed at where you said. "So, who's right? I've never known Corrus to be wrong. But this new guy sounds like he has a good point. I really don't know."

Well, I said Corrus is usually (if not always) right, and I said that it appears the new person has a point with the "TDL was being built before Eisner took the reins" comment. But I also said that I'm not sure. Hence the "sits back and waits for explanation" due to the fact that I'm not sure, and one of you probally know the correct answer.

 

[Thrawn]

high winds?

its central florida! theyre maybe 20 feet in the air! hurricanes... MAYBE!

i didnt say eliminate ALL seating i said eliminate SOME seating. cause if you havent noticed, alot of people, if all seating is taken, will wait for the next one so they can sit and hold up the line

You said you got your information from a CM. They don't know anything except for their job. Don't try to take their information as fact, and you'll get along better. The rumor he told you was false, and thats that.

 

[Nemesis394]

Urp. Walt Disney died in 1966.

Even if Iger stood at the Transportation and Ticket Center, posing in front of $3 billion in large bills, and proclaimed through a bullhorn, "AS GOD AS MY WITNESS, YOU'LL NEVER RIDE BUSES AGAIN!!!" there would still be that thorny problem of the Walt Disney Co. being a publicly traded entity. With lots of institutional investors. Who are, in the main, joyless, humorless, and focused almost solely on quarterly profits. Were the above scene to play out, these gray men (and women) would send the stock into a most scarifying free-fall. The effect would be only slightly more tame than if Iger were to smear himself with condiments from the bar at Pecos Bill's Cafe and roll around on the floor shrieking, "I'M THE WORLD'S BIGGEST HOT DOG!!!!!!"

:lol:

 

[Nemesis394]

You said you got your information from a CM. They don't know anything except for their job. Don't try to take their information as fact, and you'll get along better. The rumor he told you was false, and thats that.

rumors being false is a contradiction in terms. the fact that its a rumor means that it can neither be proven true or false. perhaps you can concretely prove it in your mind because you might think you think in the same way as the top dogs of disney. that doesnt make you right.

and THAT my blue friend is that

 

[Thrawn]

rumors being false is a contradiction in terms. the fact that its a rumor means that it can neither be proven true or false. perhaps you can concretely prove it in your mind because you might think you think in the same way as the top dogs of disney. that doesnt make you right.

and THAT my blue friend is that

The immutable laws of physics make me right. Wider monorail = wider track. Wider track = not possible without shutting it down. Since the monorail, is, obviously, a single rail, in the middle, too much weight over the sides is not good. Wouldn't meet safety standards, to say the least.

Rumors turn out two ways. Correct, or incorrect. Most of the time, they are incorrect. Especially from CMs. Don't believe them, especially with the monorail. There have been "rumors" about the monorail for a long, long time. You can probably find threads about CM monorail rumors on this board from 2001.

 

[brich]

Thrawn, my hats off to ya. Yet again, you jump into a monorail expansion thread. :lol: If I remember right, my first "bad" experience with you was in a monorail expansion thread that was posted back in 1987... :lookaroun Good luck Thrawn, may the force be with you...

 

[imagineer boy]

Oh gosh, a monorail expansion thread that has reached five pages! We're doomed!

 

[brich]

I don't need to prove where Corrus worked. He has already done that himself. So yes I do have an idea.

Ya, I thought Corrus WAS Walt Disney... As far as who works where doing what, let's be real. When the monorail get's an expansion, then I'll do a "search", go back and give props to all who claimed they had inside info and those who just took a shot in the dark and got it right. Otherwise, drag and drop this into the monorail expansion folder...

 

[nsxdrift_89]

You say that CM rumors are usually false, there have been a number of times, that i have talked with CMs at City Hall, and 2 out of 3 times, they have been right. especially, out here in CA. so, you can't say that a monorail expansion is out of the question. Unless, somebody on this board is working in this field of WDW, and can say that there is no way that we can know that we will be getting a new monorail. just becuase you think like Disney officials, doesn't mean you know what s going to happen. so, your thoughts can be just as false as anybody else's thoughts, Thrawn.....

 

[KumbaRider]

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